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Whole Foods CEO Describes Socialism as ‘Trickle Up Poverty,’ a ‘Disaster’ Doomed to Fail
The Epoch Times ^ | November 27, 2020 | Tom Ozimek

Posted on 11/27/2020 11:01:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Whole Foods founder and CEO John Mackey told the American Enterprise Institute in a livestreamed interview on Tuesday that socialism is a failed system that “impoverishes everything” and characterized it as “trickle-up poverty.”

Mackey, who co-authored the book “Conscious Capitalism,” said that “socialism has been tried 42 times in the last 100 years, and 42 failures. It doesn’t work, it’s the wrong way. We have to keep capitalism.”

While acknowledging criticisms of capitalism as a mechanism that sometimes can be captured by special interests, be overly materialistic, and appear indifferent to the plight of those who don’t succeed, he said the alternative of socialism is far worse.

“It needs to evolve,” he said of the current state of capitalism, adding, “otherwise the socialists are going to take over—that’s how I see it, and that’s the path of poverty.”

“They talk about trickle-down wealth,” he said of a key argument made by advocates of a free-market arrangement that establishes incentives that lead to better outcomes for everyone, adding, “but socialism is trickle up poverty. It just impoverishes everything.”

He argued for the adoption of what he called “conscious capitalism,” which he defined as capitalism that takes into account “higher purpose, human flourishing, and [is] done in a very conscious way.”

Mackey added that “we have to recognize that some of the progressive insights are important and they shouldn’t go away, but we can’t throw out capitalism and replace it with socialism, that will be a disaster.”

In a separate interview on the Joe Rogan podcast, Mackey acknowledged that under capitalism there can be unfavorable “externalities,” such as environmental pollution, but argued that these are not a hallmark of capitalism, which he said has actually allowed for innovation to fix such problems.

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1 posted on 11/27/2020 11:01:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

His boss Jeff Bezos won’t like that.


2 posted on 11/27/2020 11:02:17 AM PST by PGR88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

so did he vote for Biden?


3 posted on 11/27/2020 11:02:17 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

ICBW! Doesn’t beezoos own ‘holefoods’?


4 posted on 11/27/2020 11:03:08 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s interesting...The way some people talk,they make it sound like dems really want to help people....THE DEMS KNOW IT’S GOING TO RUIN US...THEY ARE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE....


5 posted on 11/27/2020 11:03:49 AM PST by Hambone 1934 (We all know President Trump....A fighter to the end......)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But it’s funny how the poverty never quite trickles to the very top.


6 posted on 11/27/2020 11:05:33 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It isn’t trickle up.

It’s tsunami up.


7 posted on 11/27/2020 11:08:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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To: PGR88
His boss Jeff Bezos won’t like that.

Markey sold his company to Bezos. It's too late for Jeff to dicatate political views to Ed. That's not in the earn-out clause. Sorry Bezos.

8 posted on 11/27/2020 11:12:16 AM PST by Praxeologue
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Boycott!


9 posted on 11/27/2020 11:12:24 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Funny considering who his clientele are.


10 posted on 11/27/2020 11:16:03 AM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ah, comes to mind the famous quote by Einstein, I believe was: “Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”

But then again, we all know that liberalism is a mental disease.


11 posted on 11/27/2020 11:16:47 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Someone gets it.


12 posted on 11/27/2020 11:17:52 AM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Poor people can’t afford to shop at Whole Foods...


13 posted on 11/27/2020 11:22:42 AM PST by null and void (If a country fixed a national election overnight like America just did, we would probably invade it.)
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To: Praxeologue

Mackey is still on the Board and he gives interviews like he’s still involved with Whole Foods.

I can’t seem to find any information on exactly “how much” influence he still has though.


14 posted on 11/27/2020 11:23:25 AM PST by PGR88
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To: DoughtyOne

couple it with green new deal and you have MASSIVE suffering, poverty and death.


15 posted on 11/27/2020 11:24:50 AM PST by himno hero (had'nff)
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I was thinking that myself. I don’t think I’m ‘poor’, but if I shopped there routinely, poverty would certainly begin to trickle through my life...


16 posted on 11/27/2020 11:26:03 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Unfortunately he is right on the money. Prosperity always has a trickle down effect, as the ones with the money most always provide jobs for he ones less privileged but not the other way around.


17 posted on 11/27/2020 11:36:51 AM PST by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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Without capitalism, there won’t be anything for them to put on the shelves


18 posted on 11/27/2020 11:37:42 AM PST by digger48
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Funny story, so last yr Im at Whole Foods with my Mom here in LA, at checkout we see this woman using an EBT card to purchase groceries..just for funzies, I watched to see what kind of car she got into, it was a mercedes benz e class, very nice car


19 posted on 11/27/2020 11:41:49 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: himno hero

I agree.


20 posted on 11/27/2020 11:50:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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