Posted on 12/15/2019 1:05:27 PM PST by yesthatjallen
When Mario Arreola-Botello was pulled over, he didn't understand much of what the Oregon police officer was telling him.
Botello, a Latino, non-native English speaker, was stopped for failing to signal a turn and a lane change, his attorney, Josh Crowther told CNN.
What happened next sparked a years-long court battle that landed at the state's supreme court. In a November ruling, the court decided officers in the state were no longer allowed to ask questions that were irrelevant to the reason of the traffic stop.
It's an issue that's often been tackled in courts across the country, but a University of North Carolina professor says there's never been a decision as "wide-reaching" as this one.
And that's a problem because he says young black and Latino men are often targeted disproportionally when it comes to random car searches.
"It really convinces people that they're not full citizens, that police are viewing them as suspects,"
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Officer asked how many guns he would like to declare.
Friend said None.
Officer looked at his drivers license again and said "Sir you're from the state of Louisiana. How many guns would you like to declare?"
Friend, "Oh uh two".
Cops ask, Where are you going at this hour?
Always say, Well right now Im going home, Ive been at your moms house all night.
They like that.
Cops always have a great sense of humor at 4:00 a.m after working 14 straight hours.
“he didn’t understand much of what the Oregon police officer was telling him.”
un effing believable..
it’s the reverse for me. The Canadian border guards are mostly assholes to me while the US guys treat me better.
I find the following phrases very useful.
“Are you a law enforcement officer acting in your official capacity?”
“I do not answer questions from law enforcement, agents of the state, or the press without the presence of my attorney.”
Whats the capital of South Dakota? I responded, Is it
Pierre? Then I was told I was free to go. No problem, really.
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Hmmm answer a question with a question???
I kind of go along with the
How do you pronounce the Capital of Kentucky, “LEWISVILLE of LOUIEEVILLE” and after ‘his choice’ mention
Oh, I thought it was Frankfort.
NO SENSE OF HUMOR.....
In VA we don’t ‘have to’ wear seat belts (Secondary offense..still??) and pulled up to a DUI checkpoint and the Officer walked by, nodded and in a few minutes he was back.
He ‘chewed’ me out for not putting on my seat belt after he gave me an opportunity.
I politely explained to him that in my day if he would have come back and saw my seat belt on he probably would have ‘went up longside of my head’ and accuse me of thinking he was stupid...
I actually agree with this... I am so tired of being guilty of something until I explain to someone who has no right to know any of my business other than the one probable cause for the detainment. Language barrier aside, this “everyone is guilty” fishing expedition every detainment has absolutely got to stop.
For an officer with an IQ of about 75 to try and catch someone up on words and replies from BS ignorant questions as probable cause to further the investigation is BS. There is not one “intelligent” person on this board who has not been through this ignorant low IQ crap... The “officer’s discretion” of someone with only the IQ of 75 playing with sneaky words they don’t even understand the definition of is not intelligent “discretion” at all...
Illegal aliens now have a new means to get out of any problem in the criminal justice system. 'Your honor, I didn't understand what the officer was telling me at the time'. Case dismissed.
More common is “Where have you been?” and “ Where are you going?”. Then “Do you know (fill in random name)?”
I have an issue with all non-related questions.
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https://www.ncsbe.gov/voters/registering-to-vote
should have included the following to the above North Carolina registration info
Qualifications to Vote
To register to vote in North Carolina, a prospective voter must meet all of the following qualifications:
Must be a citizen of the United States.
Must live in the county of his/her registration, and have resided there for at least 30 days prior to the date of the election.
Must be at least 18 years old. A prospective voter can submit a registration form up to two years before his/her 18th birthday, if and only if he/she will be 18 at the time of the next general election.
Must not be serving a sentence for a felony conviction (including probation or parole). If a prospective voter has previously been convicted of a felony, his/her citizenship rights must be restored. For more information on voting rights for those in the North Carolina criminal justice system, click here.
I agree with you. I’ve very pro-LEO’s but respect for each other is a two way street and LEO’s often don’t seem to know the basics of what your rights are, or they try to “word smith” their way around them - which is unethical and unconstitutional.
Saying “you’re suspicious so I’m going to investigate and perform a search” isn’t justified unless they can articulate what you’re doing wrong.
I don’t know if many FR’s are aware but there’s a “1st Amendment Audit” movement that deliberately record their interactions with the police. They’re all over YouTube. The number of times the police tell a lie and violate the rights of the citizen is too often. They often go into a public building, like the DMV, and record with a phone or camera. The employees freak out - call the police. Then the police lie that it is against the law. Anything you can see in a public place can be recorded - this is a 1A right. A sign saying “no phone use” doesn’t trump law.
It’s been quite educational watching them.
Pierre? I would still be in jail.
They can ask me anything they want. I don’t answer. My rights are delineated in the 5 amendment. I’m polite, give them my license and insurance card, but if they go outside of those bounds they get my standard. “Give me a ticket if you must but I don’t answer questions”.
then he asked me what I did
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Tell him that your employment informattion is subject to the Privacy Act and as such is between you and the IRS, and perhaps the Census Bureau which has very stringent safegurands against disclosing such personal data. If he’s not authorized to collect data for either agency he has no valid reason to ask you.
He may continue harassing you but keep asking what authority he has to collect such information. Then tell him you will be contacting your senator in Washington as soon as you get home. He’ll cease this line of questioning immediately because a letter will be sent from the senator to the congressional liason office in CBP causing the guard big time problems.
Same here, I am getting sick of all low IQ officers wanting to be high profile “investigators” trying to trip you up with dumb ass unconstitutional questions. And the extortion and punishment they impose on you with no legal right if you don’t submit and comply fully is really getting old.
I ALWAYS make them give me a card every time I am pulled over. By law they have to give you one. As soon as the questions go beyond their legal authority I ask for the card. Things seem to change when they think you might follow up on their low IQ crap because you have their card.
Officer- Whats the capital of South Dakota?
Motorist- “Thursday”
Officer- “Please pull up over there”
The problem is the IQ cap, And that they no longer teach or care about the constitutional rights of the citizens. Hence the reason for the IQ cap. They might actually think for themselves, get a conscience, and problem solve the fact that the policies are unconstitutional and “adjust” for this fact.
This self conscience “adjustment” might cut into monthly court revenues and mandated quotas... It’s not good for business when someone realizes that what they do to the citizens is BS from the get go...
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