Posted on 12/14/2019 8:40:40 AM PST by yesthatjallen
The Virginia National Guard on Friday responded to a Democratic lawmaker after he suggested that it may be needed to enforce new gun legislation.
The remarks from Rep. A. Donald McEachin (D-Va.) suggesting that Gov. Ralph Northam (D) “may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law” comes as dozens of counties across Virginia have declared themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries” after Democrats took over the state legislature last election.
"We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role,” the Virginia National Guard wrote in a statement posted on Twitter Friday.
“We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights. We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard,” it added.
Northam had previously hinted that should the Democratic-controlled state legislature pass stricter gun legislation and law enforcement not follow it, there would be consequences.
"If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be some consequences," Northam said Thursday, according to WSET.
"But I’ll cross that bridge if and when we get to it," he added.
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Those of us who favor Subsidiarity would say “yes”, states could in theory ban all guns.
Let’s be consistent and apply Subsidiarity further: I’d prefer counties within to be able to override those states.
Same principle applies to immigration, abortion, same-sex marriage
I would just wonder if a state like Virginia the governor, in the name of public safety, would decree to ban all firearms of any type plus the ammunition for them state wide. That would be in direct conflict with the 2nd. Amendment, right?
Look someone has all their marbles stacked.....sweet.
Heller, Caetano v Massachusetts
It is settled that the Second Amendment protects an
individual right to keep and bear arms that applies
against both the Federal Government and the States.
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570 (2008);
McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U. S. 742 (2010).
McDonald v. City of Chicago, case in which on June 28, 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled (5–4) that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” applies to state and local governments as well as to the federal government.
We found the argument “that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment” not merely wrong, but “bordering on the frivolous.”
Instead, we held that “the Second Amendment extends,
prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable
arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of
the founding.”
Heller defined the “Arms” covered by the Second Amendment to include “‘any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.’”
If Heller tells us anything, it is that firearms cannot be
categorically prohibited just because they are dangerous.
Most of the Guardsmen would not comply with this insanity. Officers implementing such a confiscation order will be summarily arrested. Then the Rat politicians who were responsible for it would be next. Why does the Democrat Party double down on being stupid???
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UGH. It's over. What a pathetic performance.
But I must say, Buffalo is very good ...... lots of # 1 draft choices on their defense.
'The Duck' better go hide out for a little while.
;-)
From what I understand, the NG serves at the discretion of the state governor in order to quell disorder and to protect the citizenry. However... if the president intervenes and federalizes the NG, the president can then order them to stand down. This occurred in Selma AL, when black schoolchildren were barred from entering an all-white school. The president intervened, the NG was ordered to back off, and the girls were escorted into the school.
Thank you!
Assuming it was a legal election.
Maybe the Nat G will storm the capitol building and oust these Unconstitutional hacks from office at gun point?
K, here comes my trolly back to the Land of Make Believe.
National Guard: I do this part time, I didn't come here to get killed. He's probably waiting for us. What's wrong with you, Clinton?
No he is not. If Northam calls them up, it is no different than DeSantis calling the Florida Guard up for hurricanes.
If the President activates them, then it’s federal.
I’m not so sure that Northam and his cohorts actually know who makes up the National Guard. Someone commented that the Virginia Guard is only 7000 strong. Of that, I can tell you that a significant amount of them are Support personnel. They are not the Infantry from the 2nd Marine Division or 82nd Airborne. Lots of clerks, medics and truck drivers in there. And I doubt any of them want to guns from their family and friends.
That’s because he’s a political appointee of the Governor. And more than likely as PC as any of the soetero filth that got promoted during those 8 years.
Wonder what his soldiers are saying. I’m betting many of them, especially the young ones are getting a talking to, by their family and friends. This isn’t going to go the way Northam thinks it is.
Not trying to be confrontational, but...
It is devoutly hoped that Gov. Northam and his evil clown posse will back down.
Why? So he can figure out a way to get rid of all those Sheriffs, County Commissions, Town/City councils and try the following year or the year after that?
They can do policing. Did it in LA during the riots and New Orleans. But, there’s the rub. The National Guard, for the most part, is NOT one big Infantry division. There are actually 2 Guard Special Forces Units. The Guard has some combat units. But, it’s primary responsibility is Support. Logistics, Communications, Transportation, Medical, etc. Now toss in the fact that a good chunk of the MP units are made up of law enforcement. So, you call up the Guard, you short the local cops. You let the cops stay at work, you short the Guard.
On top of all of that, they know nothing about policing. They can stand on a corner and enforce a curfew. That would only happen if Northam declares some type of emergency or tries to declare ‘martial law’.
Northam has no idea what the National Guard is or does. Nor does the Rep who started all this nonsense. I can promise you, that the 19yr old, Clerk-Typist isn’t strapping on kit, grabbing their M16A2 and going anywhere. I’d be surprised if they were even given rounds.
The officers may be all about it, but what about their NCOs and Enlisted folks.
Does it go like this, “Corporal, I need you to turn in your semi-automatic AR15, but here’s your full auto M4. We need to get these guns. The ones you’re not allowed to have when you go back to being a civilian.?
I don’t see that working out too well.
Are you familiar with what happened a few years ago with a guy named Bundy. The BLM with their SUVS and fancy rifles quickly found out what it’s like when the other side has guns too. A lot of them.
You are not obligated to enforce an illegal order. Ever.
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