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Michael Mann Refuses To Produce Data, Loses (Hockey-Stick Libel) Case
Powerline Blog ^ | 24 Aug 2019 | JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 08/24/2019 7:17:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Some years ago, Dr. Tim Ball wrote that climate scientist Michael Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn State.” At issue was Mann’s famous “hockey stick” graph that purported to show a sudden and unprecedented 20th century warming trend. The hockey stick featured prominently in the IPCC’s Third Assessment Report (2001), but has since been shown to be wrong. The question, in my view, is whether it was an innocent mistake or deliberate fraud on Mann’s part. (Mann, I believe, continues to assert the accuracy of his debunked graph.) Mann sued Ball for libel in 2011. Principia Scientific now reports that the court in British Columbia has dismissed Mann’s lawsuit with prejudice, and assessed costs against him.

What happened was that Dr. Ball asserted a truth defense. He argued that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud, something that could be proved if one had access to the data and calculations, in particular the R2 regression analysis, underlying it. Mann refused to produce these documents. He was ordered to produce them by the court and given a deadline. He still refused to produce them, so the court dismissed his case.

The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bloggers; climate; climatechange; fraud; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; hockeystick; michaelmann; pennstate; pennsylvania; science; timball
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maniacal Mann just wanted to make a name for himself. If he cannot reproduce the same results—and he cannot—in a replicate study, he is a liar. He is hiding that because he knows he can’t. His only recourse is to attack anyone who challenges his false study . The man is a wholesale fraud, a charlatan.


21 posted on 08/24/2019 7:48:21 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: dp0622

“They make things up and rewrite history and science and anything else to fit their agenda.”

Yup and the agenda at the time was to “get rid of” the Medieval Warming Period.

Phil Jones, Mann’s partner in crime at the CRU in the UK, also once said something like, “I’m not giving my data out so those guys can pick it all apart...”

Lol


22 posted on 08/24/2019 7:51:00 PM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: JPJones

“get rid of” the Medieval Warming Period.

Not familiar with what that is.

I assume it was something that would hurt the credibility of their report?


23 posted on 08/24/2019 7:54:31 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: dp0622

well everything before 1830 pretty much before the industrial revolution and hard to blame humans on warming.


24 posted on 08/24/2019 7:58:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

Gotcha.


25 posted on 08/24/2019 7:58:29 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The earth’s core provides a small percentage of the heat.


26 posted on 08/24/2019 8:02:06 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mann should be required to pay restitution to every one of us.


27 posted on 08/24/2019 8:20:47 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: dp0622

“get rid of” the Medieval Warming Period.

Not familiar with what that is.

I assume it was something that would hurt the credibility of their report?”

Back in 2001 when climate kooks were telling us we’re all going to die from global warming, a few learned scientist pointed out that according to the available data, the Medieval Warming Period (AD ~900-1200) was warmer than the Current Warming Period.

The Climate kooks looked at the data, and knew this to be true and were befuddled. How could it be warmer 1000 years before the advent of SUV’s and capitalism?

So they went to work “getting rid” of the MWP. Data was “adjusted” and new studies, like Mann’s Hockey stick, were commissioned.

The shaft of the Hockey Stick shot right thru the MWP straight as an arrow...like it never happened. “Smoothed” proxy (tree ring) data averaged over 100 years to flatten it completely.

Then he attached the Blade: actual thermometer readings, not “smoothed” from the past 100 years.

Apples attached to Oranges and voila!


28 posted on 08/24/2019 8:23:52 PM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Making money off any scam is sooo easy until people start asking questions.


29 posted on 08/24/2019 8:35:35 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Michael Mann’s MASSIVE FRaud should garner him some MASSIVE jail time!

Look what that miserable sonofabitch started!

It has been LIE after LIE after LIE since 2001!

And, there is probably no way to calculate the monetary damages to how many millions of people since his FRaudulent activity began!

And, don’t get me started on Owl Bore!


30 posted on 08/24/2019 8:41:18 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: JPJones

SMH

Thanks.

I’m sure the average American knows that. /s


31 posted on 08/24/2019 8:47:01 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My own experience at Penn State is if u say anything against GW you will be ridiculed and be thought of as being ignorant. I believe free thought died at this liberal bastion 20 or 30 years ago.


32 posted on 08/24/2019 9:35:03 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism!)
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To: neverevergiveup

It’s a damning indictment of Penn State that they’re defending him.


33 posted on 08/24/2019 10:51:09 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What a hockey puck, as Don Rickles would say.


34 posted on 08/24/2019 10:55:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Fungi

Now we need to list other “scientists” who believed his BS work and supported him.

Makes them look like fools and I’m all for that.


35 posted on 08/24/2019 11:14:37 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: neverevergiveup

My kid attended Penn State and wandered into one of Mann’s lectures, not knowing anything about him. Rambling, ill-prepared and totally nonsensical.


36 posted on 08/25/2019 12:54:22 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m sure this case result will get a prominenet mention on CNN, MSNBC and the MSM.


37 posted on 08/25/2019 1:14:59 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
George Carlin spoke the TRUTH well over a decade ago.

George Carlin on Global Warming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4

38 posted on 08/25/2019 1:31:32 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Any prediction about anything that includes the phrase “hockey stick” is a lie; ALWAYS, without fail.


39 posted on 08/25/2019 2:52:11 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: ConservativeMind; E. Pluribus Unum; Lurkinanloomin
"It is still ongoing."

In view of the fact that we only have 11.4 years left, I doubt that Mann v Steyn will ever be resolved! /s

40 posted on 08/25/2019 3:01:10 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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