Skip to comments.Michael Mann Refuses To Produce Data, Loses (Hockey-Stick Libel) Case
Posted on 08/24/2019 7:17:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Some years ago, Dr. Tim Ball wrote that climate scientist Michael Mann belongs in the state pen, not Penn State. At issue was Manns famous hockey stick graph that purported to show a sudden and unprecedented 20th century warming trend. The hockey stick featured prominently in the IPCCs Third Assessment Report (2001), but has since been shown to be wrong. The question, in my view, is whether it was an innocent mistake or deliberate fraud on Manns part. (Mann, I believe, continues to assert the accuracy of his debunked graph.) Mann sued Ball for libel in 2011. Principia Scientific now reports that the court in British Columbia has dismissed Manns lawsuit with prejudice, and assessed costs against him.
What happened was that Dr. Ball asserted a truth defense. He argued that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud, something that could be proved if one had access to the data and calculations, in particular the R2 regression analysis, underlying it. Mann refused to produce these documents. He was ordered to produce them by the court and given a deadline. He still refused to produce them, so the court dismissed his case.
The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Balls statement about himhe belongs in the state penwas true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Balls claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Manns part.
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Now WHY wouldn’t he want to product the data...thinking...still thinking...
He sued Mark Steyn too. Never heard how that turned out.
The entire greenhouse gas theory is nothing but hot air.
The source of all heat on earth, the Sun, determines the temperature.
Good luck regulating that.
Mann lost that case too.
It is still ongoing.
YES! Steyn vindicated!
He needs to counter-sue for Gazillions!
These b@stards! So TIRED of them and their FAKE ‘science.’
Mann is more climate litigator than researcher. Who is backstopping all his legal fees?
This wasn’t Steyn’s case. That’s still in litigation.
Thank you! ANY time Mann can take it in the SHORTS is FINE with me! :)
Michael Mann Parody video (hide the decline)
If you make up s#it in order to gain some benefit (like a grant, promotion, speaking fees, etc) that makes you a dishonest scumbag. But if you then sue someone for calling you a dishonest scumbag knowing that the evidence doesn’t exist to prove them wrong, that makes you a very dumb dishonest scumbag.
“One TreeRing to rule them all, One TreeRing to find them, One TreeRing to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.”
“Now WHY wouldnt he want to product the data...thinking...still thinking...”
If I had data that showed the end of the world was coming, I would be freely giving it out every chance I got.
We can forestall global warming by 1,000 years. Just buy (or rent) Greenland, mine the ice, and dump it in the parts of the ocean that are warming
...(or at least pack it around the various temperature monitoring stations of the world)
Put THAT in your hockey stick, Michael Mann, and sit on it.
And did no one ask for the data at the time before taking it as gospel?
Well yeah, come to think of it, that’s what communists and fascists do.
They make things up and rewrite history and science and anything else to fit their agenda.
from Steyn’s web site Aug 24
I absolutely can’t stand smarmy narcissistic people like Mann. He’s a perfect example of the type of person whose mother told him he was special, and who got pushed to go to an Ivy. Some of the dumbest, most destructive people in society are products of this same type of background. I know tons of postdocs who are brighter and more trustworthy than this clown. That he has any stature at all in US and world science is testimony to how far science has fallen.
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