Posted on 03/14/2019 6:33:00 PM PDT by markomalley
Lori Loughlin‘s daughters are dropping out of the University of Southern California — because they’re afraid of being bullied over the massive college admissions scam that has left them feeling like “a mess,” a report said Thursday.
Olivia Jade, 19, and her sister, 20-year-old Isabella Rose, have decided to withdraw from USC days after their parents, “Fuller House” star Loughlin and her husband, fashion designer Mossimo Giannulli, were charged for allegedly paying the girls’ way into the school, TMZ reported.
One source told the gossip website the girls worry they’ll be “viciously bullied” if they return to school.
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That is what I meant. The people who TOOK the bribes. Remember, it was a company that all of this was run through. It’s not like Lori Laughlin picked up the phone and called the athletic director. We are such a corruptible people. Money has replaced God in our lives...anything to obtain it is justifiable. I don’t find this very shocking. The lengths people will do to help their children. Especially when you have money.
I still can't quite reconcile a kid getting some kind of athletic scholarship without having the athletic skills to back it up. Colleges have a very limited number of scholarships to give, and a university like a USC wants to be athletically competitive. They can't afford (from an athletic reputation) to take on a student-athlete that can't compete.
One rule in my field is that a degree is almost worthless. This "scandal" is a perfect illustration of why that is the case. A professional license is far more important, and a degree is really nothing more than one step in qualifying for that license.
Look at what you posted there with regard to athletics. If someone who never even rowed a boat was admitted to USC on the basis of her athletic background in rowing, then how seriously does USC even take that sport anyway?
What’s going to be really interesting is to see what other names pop up on these records as the Feds build their case.
See my post #49. :)
Weren’t you just talking to me about test-optional admissions on another thread? Yeah. lol
Lest anyone take my last post the wrong way, let me clarify further:
You were in favor of test-optional admissions on another thread. Now you’re here complaining that athletes (according to you) aren’t smart enough for college.
There are plenty of rules and plenty of standards. I deal with them every day in my work.
One rule in my field is that a degree is almost worthless. This “scandal” is a perfect illustration of why that is the case. A professional license is far more important, and a degree is really nothing more than one step in qualifying for that license.
Look at what you posted there with regard to athletics. If someone who never even rowed a boat was admitted to USC on the basis of her athletic background in rowing, then how seriously does USC even take that sport anyway?
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Are you even reading the posts I and others write? Or are you trying to contrarian. I said I was done but sheesh cannot leave your misinformation standing...
Times may be changing, but to get FIRST JOB in Engineering yeah having a degree is rather useful and usually required to even get past the Taleo candidate screening software.
Regarding USC ROWING, they are ranked TWELFTH for D1 schools...so uh I think they take their sport seriously.
So you follow rules in your job, but it is OK for colleges to violate theirs—no big deal not a scandal...Hmmm seems conflicting to me ...I asked you if a bribed teacher gave someone an A who received a 68% on the test which had a published floor of 93% for an A, was OK. You did not respond...Eh it does not support your contentions.
Just to be clear for anyone else reading this, The Key Foundation doctored the girls’ records...They photo-shopped pictures, bribed the coach and someone in the athletic office...So yeah, they do pay attention but were provided FRAUDULENT documents — a big scandal to some even tho you don’t seem to think so.
Your commentary about degrees from good schools in first post and now saying don’t even need a degree for Engineering are just anecdotal...And you did say you got MS didn’t you? Yet you don’t need it—they why expend the resources to do it?
Not sure what area of engineering you are in, but why do you think so many tech firms have located in California and on West Coast? My kid works in San Jose and and will tell you it is because of the supply of talented graduates coming out of Stanford, Berkeley, etc....A large tech workforce. My kid’s first job was at Intel, and the Midwest school they were looking at for hiring was University of Illinois...top ranked school for Engineering.
And yeah, he needed the degree.
PhD kid would beg to differ with your regarding degree too though he went into industry and might not have needed a PhD but stayed to finish research and turn in largest dissertation in the school’s history...but to say no degree is well just your opinion vs. theirs.
Not sure why you are so contrarian here. Seems you are pretty negative about standards, schools, degrees, etc...You said,
“I would never raise a child to have an expectation that they were owed anything like this from anyone — even if they were the best qualified person for any given position as a student, employee, etc.”
I taught my kids to honor their word and hold to account those who don’t ...To stand up for what they believe in and have rightfully earned. Interestingly, they have and do...and have done very well by it.
These parents, students who were aware, and bribed co-conspirators need to be held to account in this scandal. Yes, scandal.
Again, have a nice day.
Yes I get around.
You misunderstood. Guidance counselor gave alternatives for a kid diagnosed with a learning disability for 15 years not right before sat or act test. By going that route no state school and many other colleges eliminated. This kid was not an athlete.
Another one of my kids was an athlete. Ncaa requires certain points based on certain academic classes and act or sat scores, with div 1 the highest. My kid did not have the score for Div 1, but qualified for Div 2.
Does that clarify?
Some athletes. Big difference.
Btw, I posted the info regarding test optional as info for any fellow freepers who might welcome legitimate ways to help their children as they search for colleges.
Add with test optional schools you still need to have to have strong gpa and no legitimate high school is going to fudge a kids transcript.
they sure-nuff got fyred on that one
Actually you don’t need to fill out a FAFSA to receive an athletic scholarship
wow - my daughter has 2 scholarships that are non-athletic and the school requires a FAFSA for her to get them. Why are the athletes not required to do the same I wonder.
Wouldn’t that be nice? Some of the smaller universities out in Wisconsin or Nevada may still be but I think the “schools” in the current scandal exist almost entirely as for profit world sports franchises. My business partner left USC after 2 years due to the extreme bullying she encountered there from students and educators for daring to be an organizer for the tiny republican womens caucus on campus.
It doesn’t matter to me how anyone’s child is getting into college - whether through test-optional admissions or a sports scholarship.
My kids were homeschooled, so they focused on academics. They’re not athletes. They’re not even interested in sports. They like computers. One of them scored a full ride to college because his SAT score was in the top 2%.
However, the idea that athletes aren’t intelligent is a myth. It takes intelligence to play football and basketball.
“The “old saying” does not comport with modern reality. USC is extremely hard to get into, especially if you are a white male.”
Old saying:
If you’re smart and a white male, don’t bother applying to Stanford.
If you’re dumb and a white male, don’t bother applying USC.
“Like I say, I really doubt USC turns away anybody who meets their academic threshold. It’s a very big school, and not hard to get into if you have decent grades”
I’m sure they don’t turn away people who meet their standards, but they will raise them a bit when they have ‘better qualified’ applicants applying. It’s a zero-sum game, they cannot simply take an unlimited number of people, they only have so many professors, classroom seats, dorm beds, etc.
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