Posted on 03/14/2019 6:33:00 PM PDT by markomalley
Lori Loughlin‘s daughters are dropping out of the University of Southern California — because they’re afraid of being bullied over the massive college admissions scam that has left them feeling like “a mess,” a report said Thursday.
Olivia Jade, 19, and her sister, 20-year-old Isabella Rose, have decided to withdraw from USC days after their parents, “Fuller House” star Loughlin and her husband, fashion designer Mossimo Giannulli, were charged for allegedly paying the girls’ way into the school, TMZ reported.
One source told the gossip website the girls worry they’ll be “viciously bullied” if they return to school.
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You said private school so you don’t care about their admission practices. The parents had to commit wire and mail fraud to get the kids in. Then taking fraudulent deductions was the icing on the cake. It’s all connected. th
I have read the list of indictments and the charges for each defendant, but I have not seen any description of the facts behind each of the charges. So I still don't know exactly the "fraud" charge relates to anything other than the phony charities and the tax fraud. In other words, I have no idea who the victims of the alleged fraud are (other than the tax fraud).
I’ve heard a lot of people saying the kids shouldn’t be blamed for any of this, but I know for a fact that they have to sign off on their own sections of the FAFSA. If they received any scholarships then they are required to submit a FAFSA. They are 18 year old adults treat them as such.
They should all - parents and children, administrators, coaches, test takers, facilitators - be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Southern Cal is a private school with very high tuition. Nobody was kept out. SC has always accepted students that paid higher than the standard rate. One issue here was the selling of athletic scholarships by coaches.
Fact: 2 students were denied slot on Crew - or regular admission. For them that is a scandal.
Fact: None of the students who were “denied” slots on the crew team had any legal claim on those slots. Sometimes you don’t get a job because another candidate is better, and sometimes you don’t get that job because the boss hires a less-qualifies family member instead. Maybe it’s not fair, but it’s not a “scandal.” These are private schools. I honestly don’t give a damn about their admission practices.
You have a very odd perspective defending this and for someone who does not ‘give a damn,” you sure are posting frequently on the topic...
Let me rephrase: At least 2 qualified students were not offered opportunity that should have been.
School violated their own admission policies—This was not some family business where boss hired relative.... There was no boss...There was a coach and an athletic director who were illegally bribed by parents.
BTW, not all the schools involved in the scandal were private...
If you had a student athlete denied a scholarship, a student denied admission or wait listed, you might consider this a scandal.
There was a big time my lawyer involved.
They were not scholarship kids. Most kids are 17 when filling out fafsa.
"Should have been?" Under whose standard -- yours? The applicants'?
School violated their own admission policies
I'm sure that's true. It's not illegal to violate your own policies.
If you had a student athlete denied a scholarship, a student denied admission or wait listed, you might consider this a scandal.
I would never raise a child to have an expectation that they were owed anything like this from anyone -- even if they were the best qualified person for any given position as a student, employee, etc.
My attitude is informed by my own experience.
I was a pretty good (not great) high school student. Most of my classes were in the highest academic levels (including two AP courses) in my school. I graduated in the top 10% of my class, but not the top 5%.
I applied to one of the top engineering schools in the U.S. at the time.
A guy who graduated with me from the same high school also applied. I didn't even know him because I went through four years of high school without having a single class with him. He wasn't in any of the highest level academic classes, and he probably graduated in the bottom half of our class.
He was accepted at that top engineering school. He almost certainly was admitted under a minority quota system. He lasted one semester before he dropped out and went to a two-year technical school instead. I think he went on to become a fine HVAC technician.
I didn't go to that top engineering school. I went to a second-tier school. I don't mean to brag, but in the 20+ years since then I've become a successful professional. I have a master's degree in my field, I'm professionally licensed, some of my work has appeared in national publications, and I'm a senior executive in my industry.
I can tell you from experience that even in a STEM field like mine, a "top ranked school" is highly overrated, and is likely to be a waste of money for most students.
Typo ny lawyer Caplan. Head of Willie Farr
You'd think they would have learned by now, after being scammed on Fyre Festival. If you have Netflix, check out their documentary. LOL
Congrats on your many hard earned successes. I am against affirmative action quotas in college. I remember my boyfriend was accepted to Harvard. Another student who applied punched in in the nose when he heard the news. No way they were taking 2 white kids from same Iowa high school.
I took a wine course there a few years back, best $150 I ever spent. During class on Thursday night, we'd sample 4-6 wines.
The tests were pretty difficult, had to pair a region with its primary varietal. I was done when I confused Burgundy with Bordeaux. LOL, I still ended up with an A, thanks to the extra credit I received for a presentation on German wine. I lived in a small town along the Mosel River when I was stationed in Germany, an area known for Riesling.
Now that's what I call a "target rich environment."
You'll notice I never said I wasn't accepted at the top engineering school. I was. I just didn't enroll there. A family friend who was an alumnus of the school told my father that there's no way in hell I should go there.
His rationale: "It's a great school, but for the same money you can get a bachelor's degree from a state school and a master's degree from MIT."
It was my first lesson in the economics of higher education. I never forgot it.
I'm not so sure...Olivia is a celebrity in her own right, plenty of these young dumbclucks will want to get into her orbit.
The daughters knew that their mother bribed their way into USC. Apparently, you have missed the social media post of the 19 year old. To paraphrase, "I'm just glad to get in for the party and fun...". Actual quote from last part the same video post, "I don't really care about college". I saw that video post with my own two eyes on Tucker Carlson. Don't know about the 20 year old, but they have BOTH dropped out of USC.
Of course the liberal supporters of the Hollywood elite are saying they dropped out afraid of being bullied. If they were unaware of what their mother did, they would have fought.
I'm hoping this scandal spills over to the socialist/marxist teachings occurring on so many campuses.
Wise friend. Smart dad and son to respect and follow his sound advice.
Thanks. I should also point out that dad and son really didn’t have the money for the top engineering school, either. LOL.
Problem is too many parents refuse to say no and send kids to colleges they Can not afford. Some parents want the bumper sticker. Huge student loans and those insane parentplus loans.
“Whose standards?” The schools’?...If you knew anything about student athlete recruiting, you would know they do exist—esp., in D-1 schools. However, even D2 schools and D3 will provide floors for performance. And on the curve, they take the fastest...least likely to get injured, etc.
Lots of anecdotal information in your post...Glad you are doing so well. So you “would raise your kids” differently—from what you are saying, there is no black and white, no expectations, no rules, no standards, just bribes and good-old boy network? Bosses nephew, etc...Good for you.
You, as an Engineer, should understand quantitative measures...as I do. Got STEM?...Oh yeah, I am married to a PhD in STEM, and I raised 3 STEM grads...2 Engineers—one PhD in Chem. Engr. and one who has MS in Elec. and Computer Engr. Like you, they all took lots of AP courses, one graduated a top HS in 3 years...Like you, the engineers have publications, etc. and are doing great...
So are you saying it is OK if a teacher says students scoring 93% or better on a test receive an A (the standard policy) and then gives student who scored a 68% an A because took a bribe or was teacher’s nephew? And the student scoring 93% should not expect the A?!
Even on a curve, if top 8% get As and said student is in top 8%, it is wrong to expect that A—even at a private school??? Seriously?
Yeah, I raised my kid differently...Having had a student athlete that attended practices year-round...That is early morning practices—5:30 a.m., after school practices, weekend trips nearly every weekend to various events throughout the region, paying to send my kid on plane to out-of-state summer camps and driving them to others, etc. I feel differently than you about expectations. I wanted to teach my student athlete that if they work hard put in the time, make sacrifices, etc. they will be rewarded. And they did work hard. ON track to US Service academy appointment...Had grades, nomination, etc.... Was hit by a drunk driver senior year in HS which rendered them ineligible for the appointment due to physical injuries, they learned there are no guarantees, but it was not the school violating policies, or some crooked coach—it was the drunk driver. Fortunately, they survived the crash and recovered enough to go to a D2 school and participate.
At any rate,there are quantitative records of athletes’ achievement stacked up against all others. (even published). Those quantitative records facilitate goal setting...Want to go D1, they need to perform at a certain level. D2, a lower level, etc...
A lot more than just individual school policies involved here. As I pointed out in another post...NCAA steps into policy-making and individual student progress thru their degree program. As I pointed out, I learned this first hand.
So schools use these measures for recruiting and everyone knows the times needed to get into certain schools—it is fairly transparent and quantitative...Esp. D1 like USC.
“Schools can violate their own policies?” Really?! Not illegal? We will see...
As a taxpayer, I would resent supporting a school that feels free to violate their policies... as I pointed out to you before, not all the schools in the scandal were private...
Life is not fair, but for crying out loud, these girls did not even participate, had parents photoshopping pictures and you think this is not a scandal and no big deal...
Hopeless to deal with your posts if you cannot see this?!?! Whatever!
Have a good day.
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