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To: Alberta's Child

“Whose standards?” The schools’?...If you knew anything about student athlete recruiting, you would know they do exist—esp., in D-1 schools. However, even D2 schools and D3 will provide floors for performance. And on the curve, they take the fastest...least likely to get injured, etc.

Lots of anecdotal information in your post...Glad you are doing so well. So you “would raise your kids” differently—from what you are saying, there is no black and white, no expectations, no rules, no standards, just bribes and good-old boy network? Bosses nephew, etc...Good for you.

You, as an Engineer, should understand quantitative measures...as I do. Got STEM?...Oh yeah, I am married to a PhD in STEM, and I raised 3 STEM grads...2 Engineers—one PhD in Chem. Engr. and one who has MS in Elec. and Computer Engr. Like you, they all took lots of AP courses, one graduated a top HS in 3 years...Like you, the engineers have publications, etc. and are doing great...

So are you saying it is OK if a teacher says students scoring 93% or better on a test receive an A (the standard policy) and then gives student who scored a 68% an A because took a bribe or was teacher’s nephew? And the student scoring 93% should not expect the A?!

Even on a curve, if top 8% get As and said student is in top 8%, it is wrong to expect that A—even at a private school??? Seriously?

Yeah, I raised my kid differently...Having had a student athlete that attended practices year-round...That is early morning practices—5:30 a.m., after school practices, weekend trips nearly every weekend to various events throughout the region, paying to send my kid on plane to out-of-state summer camps and driving them to others, etc. I feel differently than you about expectations. I wanted to teach my student athlete that if they work hard put in the time, make sacrifices, etc. they will be rewarded. And they did work hard. ON track to US Service academy appointment...Had grades, nomination, etc.... Was hit by a drunk driver senior year in HS which rendered them ineligible for the appointment due to physical injuries, they learned there are no guarantees, but it was not the school violating policies, or some crooked coach—it was the drunk driver. Fortunately, they survived the crash and recovered enough to go to a D2 school and participate.

At any rate,there are quantitative records of athletes’ achievement stacked up against all others. (even published). Those quantitative records facilitate goal setting...Want to go D1, they need to perform at a certain level. D2, a lower level, etc...

A lot more than just individual school policies involved here. As I pointed out in another post...NCAA steps into policy-making and individual student progress thru their degree program. As I pointed out, I learned this first hand.

So schools use these measures for recruiting and everyone knows the times needed to get into certain schools—it is fairly transparent and quantitative...Esp. D1 like USC.

“Schools can violate their own policies?” Really?! Not illegal? We will see...

As a taxpayer, I would resent supporting a school that feels free to violate their policies... as I pointed out to you before, not all the schools in the scandal were private...

Life is not fair, but for crying out loud, these girls did not even participate, had parents photoshopping pictures and you think this is not a scandal and no big deal...

Hopeless to deal with your posts if you cannot see this?!?! Whatever!

Have a good day.


160 posted on 03/15/2019 8:15:21 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: Freedom56v2
There are plenty of rules and plenty of standards. I deal with them every day in my work.

One rule in my field is that a degree is almost worthless. This "scandal" is a perfect illustration of why that is the case. A professional license is far more important, and a degree is really nothing more than one step in qualifying for that license.

Look at what you posted there with regard to athletics. If someone who never even rowed a boat was admitted to USC on the basis of her athletic background in rowing, then how seriously does USC even take that sport anyway?

163 posted on 03/15/2019 9:14:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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