Posted on 08/25/2018 7:16:32 AM PDT by Kaslin
“JFK had a legendary love life. Did one of his affairs connect him with the mob?” (CNN, promoting its Kennedy family hagiography, March 31, 2018.)
“Legendary” –whether morally-neutral or complimentary or both-- is not exactly the terminology CNN is employing with regard to President Trump’s “love life.”
Consensual and discreet adulterous affairs distant (both time-wise and geographically) from the White House do not qualify a “love life” as “legendary” with CNN.
But apparently, feeding amyl-nitrate poppers to a starstruck 19 year-old, taking her virginity in the very White House bed and directing her to fellate a 50-year old friend while watching does.
Or has CNN forgotten about Mimi Alford? A reminder:
“When a reveler (at a celebrity party) passed around a tray of sex drug amyl nitrate, writes Mimi Alford, the president (JFK) asked her if she wanted to try it. “I said no,’ Alford recalls, ‘but he just went ahead and popped the capsule and held it under my nose. I ran crying from the room".
A few months earlier an aghast Nikita Khrushchev was reading repeated pleadings and cajolings from Fidel Castro to quit pussyfooting around and launch a nuclear strike against the U.S. Just as the shaken Khrushchev frantically ordered his officers in Cuba to keep Fidel Castro and Che Guevara FAR AWAY from the launch buttons! and get the missiles OUT!”—at this very time JFK was romping in the White house bed with the 19 year-old Mimi Alford!
Mere months earlier dozens of Cuban exiles (many of them college kids about Mimi Alford’s age) were infiltrating Cuba and bringing out eye-witness reports of what remains the biggest military threat to the U.S. since 1812. In the process dozens were also dying by firing squad and torture at the hands of Castro and Che Guevara’s KGB- tutored secret police.
For all the good the Cubans did:
“Nothing but refugee rumors,” sneered JFK’s National Security advisor, McGeorge Bundy on ABC’s Issues and Answers on October 14, 1962. “Nothing in Cuba presents a threat to the United States,” continued the Ivy League luminary, barely masking his scorn for these hot-headed and deceitful Cubans and their sensational reports of missiles. “There’s no likelihood that the Soviets or Cubans would try and install an offensive capability in Cuba,” he scoffed.
And for all the thanks the Cubans got:
“There's fifty-odd-thousand Cuban refugees in this country," sneered President Kennedy himself the following day, "all living for the day when we go to war with Cuba. They're the ones putting out this kind of stuff."
Exactly 48 hours later U-2 photos sat on the President’s desk revealing those “refugee rumors,” complete with nuclear warheads, and pointed directly at Bundy, JFK and their entire staff of sagacious Ivy League wizards.
"We ended up getting exactly what we'd wanted all along,” snickered Khrushchev in his memoirs regarding Kennedy’s “resolution” of the resulting “crisis.”: “Security for Fidel Castro's regime and American missiles removed from Turkey. Until today, the U.S. has complied with her promise to not interfere with Castro and to not allow anyone else to interfere with Castro [italics mine].
After the Missile Crisis "resolution," the U.S. Coast Guard and even the British navy (when some intrepid exile freedom fighters moved their operation to the Bahamas and Kennedy notified his chum, British PM Harold Mc Millan of their intrepidness) shielded Castro from exile attacks. In the Florida Keys and Bahamas they were arresting and disarming the very exiles the CIA had been training and arming the month before.
In his diaries Khrushchev snickers further: "it would have been ridiculous for us to go to war over Cuba–for a country 8,000 miles away. For us, war was unthinkable." So much for the threat that so rattled the Knights of Camelot and inspired such cinematic and literary epics of drama and derring-do by their court scribes and court cinematographers (i.e. the MSM and Hollywood.)
Eighteen months after the botched Bay of Pigs invasion, two months after his deal with Khrushchev (and shortly after the amyl-nitrate party) a guilt-stricken JFK ransomed the surviving Bay of Pigs freedom-fighters back from Castro's dungeons. Living under a daily firing-squad sentence for almost two years these Cuban freedom-fighters –aware it would probably save their lives--had refused to sign the confession damning the “U.S. Imperialists” (the very nation, which for all they knew at the time, that had betrayed them on that beachhead.) “We will die with dignity!” responded their second-in-command Erneido Oliva to his furious KGB-trained interrogators, again and again and again.
To Castroites such an attitutde not only enrages, but baffles.
On Dec. 29, 1962, these Cuban freedom fighters, many on crutches others in wheelchairs gathered with their destitute and traumatized families in Miami’s Orange Bowl to hear President Kennedy address them. “I am here today not to be honored—but to pay honor,” intoned the U.S. president. “I know of no men in modern history who showed more courage under more difficult conditions than those before me today.”
The president continued in this vein and upon completing his tribute the Cuban freedom-fighters handed him their sacred battle flag, a gesture which surprised and seemed to deeply move the U.S. president.
“I promise to deliver this Brigade banner to you in a free Havana!" he beamed at the freedom-fighters and their loved-ones.
The stadium erupted: “CUBA LIBRE!” yelled the delirious crowd while hugging and cheering and sobbing. “CUBA-LIBRE!” yelled men (and boys) who’d snickered in the face of KGB torturers weeks earlier, but now wept openly. The hour of liberation seemed nigh, and with the full backing of “The Leader of the Free World.”
But AH!--two months earlier this same Leader of the Free World had made a different pledge to Khrushchev, ensuring anything but a Cuba Libre; promising, in fact, that Havana would remain Communist, as enforced by U.S. arms.
And the following fifty years showed which pledge the U.S. honored. The pledge to the Butcher of Budapest to preserve Castroite Stalinism has proven sacrosanct--while the pledge of liberty to the men who risked their lives to warn the U.S. of the greatest threat in her history was trashed.
Mimi Alford, on the other hand, claims the president was always perfectly honest with her.
If JFK were alive today he’d be retweeting anti-Trump garbage from his nursing home. And when he died the picture of him coming on stage and hugging Obama at the 2008 DNC would the one the media would keep playing over and over. Every member of that family is/was a POS.
The democrat party (NEVER the better party) was taken over by socialists on the national level in 1896. It was completely dominated by swine socialists during reign of terror of FDR after which time decent conservative democrats started voting going GOP for President. The last time it nominated a conservative for President was 1924, a huge chunk of rat voters refused to back him and voted for the liberal RINO running a third party campaign, that’s right this conservative democrat, John Davis, got the smallest share of the popular vote of ANY democrat nominee ever and that INCLUDES Stephen Douglas in 1860 when the Southern rats bolted!
It may be politically useful to appropriate JFK (just like MLK) but just like with MLK the facts cannot back it up. Richard Nixon for all his flaws was the man to back in 1960. Everything Johnson did? Jack was gonna do. Cutting taxes from 90% to 70% doesn’t make you a conservative, it just makes you a slightly less loathsome piece of garbage.
As I’ve told Billy before, when the nuns asked the class if they (ie their parents) were for Nixon, my mom’s hand was one of only 2 to go up.
A similar idea is expressed in this old memo from the past...
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Office of First President & Living Prophet®: November 8, 2012
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Ok, now name Kennedy’s right wing policies. There are many.
Yes, that and he went up against the CIA. They had fooled him into Bay of Pigs and he caught onto their scam and withdrew.
CIA Fed Reserve and Bay of Pigs opposition set in motion plan for assassination.
I think folks tend to see more - ONLY - the murdered President, and less the policies and things he supported.
The fact that he served honorably in WWII didn’t hurt him either, what with the whole PT-109 incident (although how much of that is real versus fabricated is up to anyone guess as well; I’ve heard both sides of that story).
A very wise man and dear friend of mine once told me - “You come to a point where you realize that most of what you were taught just might be bullsh*t...” And regarding history - FDR, etc., - he was correct.
can’t be jfk until you bring your bimbos INTO the wh.
I believe we already had this discussion. You didn't name "many". According to your own prior statement, you name "four" (and I feel you only named two actual policy positions, but claimed four) "conservative" policies of JFK, and then challenged the rest of us to name a single left-wing policy of his.
I then named TEN left-wing policies of JFK (and could easily continue naming more), NONE of which you bothered to refute. Do you agree that "conservative" JFK supported all ten of those things? If so, that's already far more liberal policies than conservative policies JFK fought far.
As the much smaller number of "conservative" policies you cited, I already refuted them by pointing out that Obama likewise supported tax cuts (he broke his campaign pledge to repeal the Bush tax cuts, and fought with members of his own party to push for extending those tax cuts) and spoke out against communist regimes (most notably North Korea), so Obama would be "conservative" by the standards you apply to JFK.
As for the other two, I would dispute that JFK was "strong on defense" (the Bay of Pigs fiasco being evidence of that) and abortion was not an issue in 1960, so its pointless to discuss JFK's abortion policies. In any case, you cited a comment JFK made against countries forcing women to have abortions for population control. I doubt there's a single U.S. President who wouldn't make the same comment against countries mandating abortion for population control (including, again, abortion-loving Obama). As for social issues overall, JFK was very liberal, and openly disagree with the Catholic Church's conservative teachings on birth control and favored moving the country leftward on social policy. It also wouldn't surprise me if he was the kind of guy who would encourage his mistresses to get abortions to "take care of the problem" if he got any of them pregnant.
Also, do you dispute that JFK ran to the left of Richard Nixon in 1960, and continually bashed Nixon for not agreeing with him about big government programs being the solution for everything? Do you dispute that Ronald Reagan endorsed Nixon over your hero JFK, because he felt JFK's views were too liberal?
It’s shocking how many JFK sycophants are on this board.
It's worse than that, its a cult of personality. For example, President James A. Garfield was likewise tragically murdered in his 40s before he had accomplished anything as President (his mother even saw him murdered in front of her), and UNLIKE JFK, Garfield was an actual conservative and a decent guy. But you never hear people on the right or left speak in revered tones about what a heroic, beloved figure Garfield was, or claim he was killed because he was planning to expose the corrupt establishment in this country.
The mainstream media has convinced ALL Americans, regardless of ideology, that JFK was some kind of revolutionary superhero, and anyone who disputes this propaganda on the right or left is immediately attacked. He was a mediocre leader who has become a sacred cow whose "great legacy" cannot be disputed, like the Kim Jong clan is in North Korea.
What I find very interesting is the SAME folks who constantly repeat the heroic patriotic savior JFK myth and proudly repeat the "Republican states are RED!!!" propaganda are the ones who balk at the media saying the confederate flag and the confederacy itself represents racism and slavery, crying "WE CAN'T LET THE MEDIA DEFINE THINGS FOR US!!!!"
The irony is delicious.
Ping.
Yup. See my tagline.
JFK’s “conservative” policies cited by his fan club:
1) JFK cut taxes.
2) JFK spoke out against communist regimes.
3) Umm…er…ah…
JFK’s liberal policies cited by me:
1) JFK supported universal health care and socialized medicine.
2) JFK wanted to “reform” immigration laws by allowing massive immigration from third world countries.
3) JFK pushed to replace the death penalty with so-called “life” sentences that allowed parole.
4) JFK was a yes-man for corrupt labor unions like AFL-CIO (pushing for minimum wage hikes, etc.)
5) JFK enacted a massive new federal spending, guidelines, regulations and control over education.
6) JFK greatly expanded welfare benefits.
7) JFK created the cabinet-level Department of Housing and Urban Affairs to oversee his new entitlement programs from the $3.19 billion omnibus Housing Bill of 1961 that he got Congress to pass.
8) JFK enacted the Health Services for Agricultural Migratory Workers Act.
9) JFK created a "pilot" Food Stamp program for poor Americans.
10) JFK passed the “Clean Air Act of 1963” that greatly expanded the powers of the federal government in "preventing and controlling air pollution”, as well as doubling the federal funds to “combat water pollution”.
11) This list could easily continue. Etc., etc. etc.
#1 was borne out of the common sense reasoning regarding the law of diminishing returns when it comes to confiscatory taxation.
As for #2, Bay of Pigs kinda put that to bed as “just talk.” Selling out to Khrushchev was the death knell.
This kid was so far out of his element and unprepared for the job as President that we were lucky to dodge WW3.
That also doesn’t even begin to cover his drug addictions and being an epic-level sexual predator. JFK is what happens when you let the media anoint your President.
The ‘60s should’ve been Nixon’s time to shine. I think he would’ve excised the cancer of Castro early on (he wouldn’t have left our people to twist in the wind). He could handle the bluster of Khrushchev which made JFK pee his panties. I believe he would’ve decisively handled Vietnam and kept a free south. No atrocious “Great Society” programs or the like. A more reasonable approach to Civil Rights which would’ve given full credit to the GOP as it always deserved. No radical immigration policies to transform America into a Turd World $hithole and give Democrats limitless supporters.
Add to that a Justice Department that would’ve scrutinized the corruption of JFK-LBJ’s ‘60 race and sent people to prison, and also exposed the two publicly as sex predators. LBJ dying in prison. Sen. JFK overdosing on one of his feel-good drugs ahead of prison by 1964 after being found with prostitutes. RFK going to prison. Ted the Swimmer never reaching the Senate. The Kennedy myth shattered.
A far different and better country today.
Possibly because there are not very many now living that were living when he died.
Unlike today; where there are probably MI:LLIONS of folks who can actually REMEMBER what happened to JFK.
Wow, ‘School of Darkness’ really sucked me in - I finished the third chapter before I could even comment.
Thanks for posting the link :)
1960 was such a close election, its surprising nobody seems to speculate on what a 1960 Nixon Presidency would have been like. Wonder if JFK would have tried a rematch in '64? You're probably right that he'd sink into a deep depression after losing a "surefire" election that daddy promised to steal for him (shades of Hillary in 2016!) and end up in some scandal involving drugs and sluts that caused him to resign from the Senate by the late 60s.
Pity poor Frank Sinatra who would’ve loved a do-over for 1960 after being back-stabbed by Jack...
“Ev’ry-body’s votin’ for Dick...”
Apparently one sure thing is that the first black cabinet member would have been in 1961 instead of 1966, as Nixon’s veep choice Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. leaked the news during the campaign that they were considering Ralph Bunche for a cabinet post in a Nixon administration.
Milk is remembered today, Ryan is not. That's because the media created some modern day myth about Harvey Milk as a martyred gay icon who died for the "cause" of gay rights.
It's the same reason why everyone remembers the 1963 assassination of JFK, but nobody remembers the 1964 assassination of Sam Cooke (who was a world famous singer known as the "King of Soul" at the time of his death)
JFK has a cult of personality that makes him out to be some kind of beloved heroic figure, and creates the myth that the establishment took him out to prevent him from saving America.
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