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Is Andrew Brunson's Release More Important Than Alliance With Turkey?
Christian Post ^ | 08/21/2018 | Mark Tooley

Posted on 08/21/2018 10:00:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

American evangelicals and human rights advocates are encouraging the United States to pressure Turkey to release American missionary Andrew Brunson, who faces ridiculous allegations of complicity in Kurdish terrorism.

Are they right to do so, even if the price is estrangement with a key NATO member and harm to US regional interests? How should Christians in their political witness balance Christian causes versus the wider national good?

The president, vice president and secretary of state have all denounced Turkey's imprisonment of Brunson. Economic sanctions have been levied against Turkish products, and personal sanctions have targeted two Turkish officials. Congress has acted to prevent the sale of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey.

Evangelical support for Republicans reputedly explains US actions on Brunson, who belongs to a small evangelical denomination. But congressional votes were strongly bipartisan, with Senator Jeanne Shaheen, Democrat from New Hampshire who met with Brunson in Turkey, playing a leading role.

Brunson as a pastor and missionary justifiably generates evangelical advocacy. But he is of course a US citizen. Turkey has detained other US persons under dubious circumstances since the 2016 failed military coup. Erdogan's despotism has accelerated as he's exploited the coup to arrest tens of thousands. For Americans, Christian or otherwise, Brunson is an especially sympathetic arrestee as a non-political clergy and family man with a very small congregation and over two decades of devoted ministry in Turkey.

The multifaceted allegations against Brunson of complicity with terrorism, coup plotting, and collaboration with Erdogan's favorite bête noir are sweepingly absurd. From his Pennsylvania exile, Sufi mystic Fethullah Gülen is the Turkish strongman's nearly universal explanation for all opposition. Erdogan's suggestion that Brunson could be exchanged for Gülen recalls another sinister proposal.

Backed by their new Islamist regime, Iranian hostage takers who occupied the US embassy in 1979 offered their captive American diplomats in exchange for the exiled shah. American law, honor, and decency forbade such a bargain, as they similarly would today.

Iran's regime of mullahs was and remains unequivocally an enemy. Turkey, even under Erdogan, is ostensibly a NATO ally. The Brunson dispute may contribute to the unraveling of Turkey's 70-year alliance with America. Given its strategic importance, is the loss worth it? And should Brunson's advocates, Christian or otherwise, adamantly push ahead despite this risk?

There may not be any choice. America is America, and ignoring or minimizing the outage of such hostage taking, whose Christian victim has already offered public forgiveness in court to his tormentors, contravenes our core national identity.

Yet American denunciations and sanctions, however justified, may only provoke Erdogan into doubling down. As with most despots, exploiting anti-US sentiment is central to his demagoguery. And Turkey's very small Christian community, particularly its tiny subset of Protestants and evangelicals, could suffer by association.

Even if Turkey releases Brunson, as surely it will do eventually, US-Turkey relations may not fully recover. Erdogan has threatened to shift to "new alliances" (i.e., with China or Russia), although Russia is Turkey's historical nemesis. Imagining himself an heir to the sultans, Erdogan has subverted Turkish democracy and panders to his nation's worst instincts. He will continue so long as Turkey allows him.

American-wide resolve against Erdogan's hostage ploy is unsurprising. Nor is evangelical advocacy for Brunson. Nor is silence from the usual quarters typically indifferent both to American honor and global persecution of Christians. (A word search for "Brunson" finds no mention at Christian, social justice focused Sojournerseven after two years, and there is nothing in liberal Protestant Christian Century in a year. But there are many ongoing mentions in evangelical Christianity Today and World.)

With sophistication and discernment, Christian political witness should not automatically conflate Christian interests with American interests. The two overlap in the Brunson case as American character, which is intrinsic to America's lofty understanding of national purpose, precludes indifference.

But such high-minded notions of national character, pursued in place of more traditional interests, often have a cost. Bearing that cost is part of the price and privilege of being American.


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To: TADSLOS

Ask Lisa Barsoomian and her husband for their thoughts.


21 posted on 08/21/2018 10:45:24 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yep. Gotta find a way to ease them out of NATO.


22 posted on 08/21/2018 10:46:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

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>> “Is Andrew Brunson’s Release More Important Than Alliance With Turkey? <<

Yes, absolutely!


23 posted on 08/21/2018 10:48:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: PGR88

And the Turkish parliament voted against letting the 4th ID transit Turkey to enter Iraq to take down Saddam. Some ally.


24 posted on 08/21/2018 10:49:51 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

Is Andrew Brunson’s Release More Important Than Alliance With Turkey?


The answer is yes. Andrew is not merely one person. He is a line in the sand. While we would love for Turkey to join civilization again, they are moving further away. And we need to move further away from them. We need to withdraw the benefits of civilization as they stop being civilized. Treating Americans well is one thing. But we need to stop treating them like a democracy because they are no longer a democracy. They are in NATO for now. But they don’t have to be. We could use Romania instead. And we could support our friends the Kurds, who deserve our friendship.


25 posted on 08/21/2018 10:50:05 AM PDT by poinq
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To: SeekAndFind

“Yes, but are you going to want the government to arrest them and put them in jail for 2 years for doing so?”

Yes if they become chronic pests.


26 posted on 08/21/2018 10:52:43 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SeekAndFind

“..Make disciples of all nations..”

Maybe Turkey doesn’t want to be a “disciple”?


27 posted on 08/21/2018 10:55:34 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: PGR88
but please don’t call it an “alliance.”

I was at Incirlik. I would agree wholeheartedly. 👍

28 posted on 08/21/2018 10:59:27 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is Andrew Brunson's Release More Important Than Alliance With Turkey?

One is possible. The other is not with the government currently in power.

So yes.

Next question?

29 posted on 08/21/2018 10:59:36 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: kabar

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/mar/02/world/fg-iraq2


30 posted on 08/21/2018 11:00:52 AM PDT by leopud
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To: Bonemaker

Moron. Go away.


31 posted on 08/21/2018 11:01:35 AM PDT by Sedona13
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To: SeekAndFind

No ally would keep a US citizen as a hostage like this. Turkey made this choice, we are just reacting to it (and only because DJT is the POTUS - if it was the Fake Hawaiian or Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit, we’d still be kissing Erdogen’s arse and Brunson would rot until he died.

Turkey as a secular state was our ally. Turkey as a radical Moslem state is our enemy. I hope that we can return to the former, and for the same in Iran. These results are at least possible now, under Trump, whereas under any other leader we’ve had for the past 35 years it was not.


32 posted on 08/21/2018 11:02:16 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t get these Christian hand wringers. Turkey most definitely should not be an ally. Why would Christians want to be allied with a state that’s ideology is one to persecute Christians?


33 posted on 08/21/2018 11:07:08 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind. Oh, look — it’s the partisan media shills’ latest regurgitation of the DNC talking points:

Trump Harms Religious Freedom by Intolerance to Some, Favoritism to Evangelicals, NYT Says
Christian Post | 08/21/2018 | Samuel Smith
Posted on 08/21/2018 10:06:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3680957/posts


34 posted on 08/21/2018 11:14:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Billthedrill

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We should give them Fethullah Gülen!

He is islamizing our children.


35 posted on 08/21/2018 11:23:00 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SeekAndFind
Excerpts from: http://www.capitalcentury.com/1904.html

It all happened in 1904, when the 64-year-old Perdicaris and his stepson found themselves taken hostage from their villa in Tangier, Morocco by a flamboyant, black-bearded Mulai Ahmed er Raisuli, and he wanted to extort a heavy ransom from the Sultan of Morocco -- not to mention embarrass the sovereign by showing his powerlessness to protect foreign citizens.

This was more than a simple kidnapping in a distant land. For President Theodore Roosevelt, it was an opportunity to start waving his "big stick," sending battleships steaming toward the African coast to ensure Perdicaris' safe release.

It also gave Roosevelt the chance to issue one of his most blood-curdling proclamations, a statement that helped ensure his re-election while sending Americans wild with joy:

"Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!"

36 posted on 08/21/2018 11:24:37 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: SeekAndFind

Why yes it is. If we let Turkey get away with randomly abducting American citizens to use as leverage against America and its interests then they will be no end of this behavior by Turkey and other shit-hole countries. Turkey needs to be pounded down to the ground until this innocent pastor is released.


37 posted on 08/21/2018 11:40:19 AM PDT by WMarshal (Because we're America, Bitches!)
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To: Sam Gamgee

RE: Why would Christians want to be allied with a state that’s ideology is one to persecute Christians?

Turkey did not persecute Christians until Erdogan came along. And Erdogan left Christians alone until very recently.


38 posted on 08/21/2018 11:55:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
The alliance with Türkıye is dead except for the paper.
39 posted on 08/21/2018 12:24:38 PM PDT by arthurus (X)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry but I have little sympathy for someone who decides to live in Turkey for over 20 years and obviously gets involved in politics.


40 posted on 08/21/2018 1:21:44 PM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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