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Ancient forbidden Christian text of Jesus' 'secret teachings' to his 'brother' found
Fox News ^ | 12-5-2017 | James Rogers

Posted on 12/05/2017 11:12:13 AM PST by servo1969

Biblical scholars have discovered the first-known original Greek copy of an ancient forbidden Christian text that purportedly describes Jesus’ secret teachings to his “brother” James, an early leader of the Church.

Geoffrey Smith and Brent Landau, religious studies scholars at The University of Texas at Austin, located the rare text in Oxford University archives earlier this year. The experts found several fifth- or sixth-century A.D. Greek fragments of the First Apocalypse of James, one of the books from an ancient collection known as the Nag Hammadi library. Previously, the text was thought to be preserved only via translations in the Egyptian Coptic language.

Only a small number of texts from the Nag Hammadi library, a collection of 13 Coptic Gnostic books discovered in Egypt in 1945, have been found in Greek, their original language of composition. Also known as the “Gnostic Gospels,” the books are seen as key documents for understanding Gnosticism, an ancient belief system.

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To: servo1969

Title is misleading. It even says in the article that brother is not to be taken as blood relative.


21 posted on 12/05/2017 11:41:00 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: left that other site

Hey, these texts were written by Joel Osteen so you know it’s legit!


22 posted on 12/05/2017 11:44:00 AM PST by henkster
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To: left that other site

who found them wanting? Those who had skin and money involved of course

This discovery is of the earliest known copies of the texts.


23 posted on 12/05/2017 11:48:03 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: servo1969

I’m not sure what the article means by “forbidden”. They just were not considered reliable or scripture. Nor were they actually written by the apostles or relayed by the apostles.


24 posted on 12/05/2017 11:48:57 AM PST by circlecity
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To: servo1969
The First Apocalypse of James

Denies the Deity of Christ. Denies that one of the Names of God is the Lord Jesus. Teaches there are other "gods".

States Jesus needs Redemption rather than being the Perfect Sinless sacrifice.

Introduces false "She" God power. Possible to bring back a Roman Goddess.

There are a myriad of Major problems with this text.

25 posted on 12/05/2017 11:54:36 AM PST by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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To: servo1969

This might have interesting historical value. But any Biblical scholar worth his weight will tell you that Jesus’s brother wasn’t even a believer When Jesus Ministered.


26 posted on 12/05/2017 12:06:28 PM PST by Sanity is my name
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To: servo1969
Ancient forbidden Christian text of Jesus' 'secret teachings' to his 'brother' found

Wow... so Jesus was able to text back then?

27 posted on 12/05/2017 12:11:10 PM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: PJBankard

Does it?

So then a Catholic wrote this.

All. Righty. Then.


28 posted on 12/05/2017 12:13:59 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Tucker39

“Jesus half-bothers”

LOL!

As though Joseph would dare enter the vessel of Christ and the Holy Spirit...


29 posted on 12/05/2017 12:18:32 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: CptnObvious

Standard Gnostic foolishness.


30 posted on 12/05/2017 12:19:08 PM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: TBP
Nag Hammadi is one of the treasure troves of early Christian writing.

Gnostics are not Christians.
31 posted on 12/05/2017 12:22:34 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

There are many who would disagree with you on that.


32 posted on 12/05/2017 12:25:24 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: G Larry

Hold yer fire there, Hoss! If you have a problem, take it up with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Oh, and Paul, too.

Jesus’ Brothers, Sisters & Mother
Jesus’ siblings are mentioned as accompanying Jesus and his mother to Capernaum after the marriage at Cana (John 2:12). Later Mary and these brothers are recorded as seeking an audience with Jesus (Matthew 12:46-50; Mark 3:31-35; Luke 8:19-21). Toward the end of Jesus’ ministry, His brethren are mentioned as urging Jesus to prove His Messiahship, which they themselves doubted (John 7:3-5). That they were later converted is clear, for they are described in Acts as uniting with the disciples and others in “prayer and supplication” prior to Pentecost (Acts 1:13-14). Paul implies that they were all married (1 Corinthians 9:5).

Many commentators hold that the author of the epistle of Jude, who identifies himself as the “brother of James,” was one of these brothers (Jude 1). It is also generally believed that the leader of the church at Jerusalem was James the brother of Jesus, (see Acts 12:17; 15:13). This seems to be confirmed by Paul’s reference to his visit to Jerusalem, in which he states that he saw only Peter, and “James, the Lord’s brother” (Galatians 1:18-19).


33 posted on 12/05/2017 12:29:06 PM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The article said there were multiple interpretations of the term brother.

From the article:

“James, also known as “James the Just” was a leader of the early church - one interpretation of “brother” may thus be a close spiritual relationship as opposed to a fraternal biological link. The First Apocalypse of James describes James as not Jesus’ brother “materially.””


34 posted on 12/05/2017 12:32:33 PM PST by PJBankard
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To: TBP
There are many who would disagree with you on that.

Of course there are. Some Unitarians, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons would describe themselves as Christians, too. All these groups have a fundamentally different understanding of who Jesus Christ is, which means they are trying to redefine Christianity.

In the case of the Gnostics, they predate Christianity, and are simply trying to steal a good brand name. They are more accurately described by names like Manichaean, Rosicrucian, Albigensian, etc. depending on flavor.
35 posted on 12/05/2017 12:35:52 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: servo1969

Brian Williams was there when it was found, so it must be true.


36 posted on 12/05/2017 12:36:59 PM PST by laweeks
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To: servo1969

Mary, a virgin Jewess betrothed to Joseph, a faithful Jew, gave birth to Jesus. Jesus had a brother James. No second wife is mentioned for Joseph, Earthly father of Jesus. Some church doctrine says that Mary, Mother of Jesus remained virgin all her life. But Jewish law requires consummation for a marriage to be valid.

(From Chabad.org) This first stage of marriage is not a preliminary agreement to contract a marriage at a future date (like the western concept of engagement), but an integral component of the two-step marriage process. The betrothal portion is a sort of inchoate marriage; from that point onward, the couple is considered married. Until the second step is taken, however, the bride may not cohabit with the groom (or any other man). In this social suspension that marks the difficult transition from the single life to the married state, the couple is together yet apart. Until the twelfth century, this first stage of marriage lasted up to one year in order to make preparations for the final step. The second stage of the marriage process is the consummation. It is alternatively termed nissuin, meaning elevation of status, from nassa, coming by carriage from the father’s home to the groom’s; or chuppah, wedding canopy.

The Bible begins to use the term kichah as a preliminary to marital intercourse only after the Torah is received at Sinai. From this time forward, all Jewish marriages must have both components in order to be valid. The Rabbis, in order to make this perfectly clear to the couple, framed the betrothal blessing to read: “...who has forbidden us the betrothed [arusot], and permitted us those who are married to us by chuppah and kiddushin.”(end Chabad.org)

The church doctrine appears to conflict with the Torah.


37 posted on 12/05/2017 12:38:36 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: circlecity
I’m not sure what the article means by “forbidden”.

What it means is "please click on this".

38 posted on 12/05/2017 12:39:41 PM PST by Romulus
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To: servo1969

Who decides exactly what is legit, and what is not? And what are the criteria?


39 posted on 12/05/2017 12:40:16 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Dr. Sivana

There re Gnostic Christians and non-Christian Gnostics. Iv’e read some scholars who say that they are Christians.


40 posted on 12/05/2017 12:52:36 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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