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It’s Time To Break Up Amazon
Fast Company ^ | 6/20/17 | Douglas Rushkoff

Posted on 06/20/2017 6:59:59 AM PDT by Callahan

“Amazon just bought Whole Foods,” my friend texted me seconds after the announcement of the proposed acquisition. “It’s over. The world.”

This unease is widespread, and has raised new calls for breaking up Jeff Bezos’s impending monopoly by force. Surely the company, which now generates 30% of all online and offline retail sales growth in the United States, and already controls 40% of internet cloud services, has reached too far. The 3% hike in Amazon’s share price since the announcement—which would alone more than pay for the acquisition—may attest less to the deal’s appropriateness than to investors’ growing fear that missing out on Amazon means missing out on the future of the economy.

Whatever you may think of Jeff Bezos, and whether or not antitrust regulations can justifiably be applied to a company whose expansion doesn’t raise but actually lowers costs for end consumers, may be beside the point. Many of us get that something is amiss, but are ourselves so deeply enmeshed in the logic of last century’s version of free-market industrial capitalism that we can’t quite bring ourselves to call this out for the threat it poses to our markets, our economy, and even our planet.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amazon; amazonantitrust; amazonwholefoods; antitrust; bezos; economy; wholefoods
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To: Captain Peter Blood

If that’s Kroger’s cap they’re seriously undervalued. They had $115 billion in revenue last year, no way they’re selling for less than a year’s revenue. I suppose you could go hostile, but that drives up the stock price.


101 posted on 06/20/2017 8:20:02 AM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: palmer
And a month later they have competition. The barriers to entry in online retail are very low. Anyone can sell online and can scale their operation from small to large with little difficulty. A little guy can't do same-day delivery but almost any traditional retailer can.

No one is going to be able to match their economies of scale. That is entirely a function of how much product they move, and once a threshold is achieved, it will then become impossible to offer prices lower than the behemoth who currently has most of the market.

They can reduce their profit margin lower than your cost of doing business.

102 posted on 06/20/2017 8:20:09 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Callahan

As I said before I’ve moved over to Walmart online.


103 posted on 06/20/2017 8:21:37 AM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: Boogieman
Sure, ping us all when Jeff Bezos has a private army, is delegated to administer the law in his own little corner of the country, and has his own seat in a special house of Congress that the people don’t have a voice in.

Ping.

That is the situation now, although not so much with Jeff Bezos.

Were you not paying attention when Google manipulated the election in 2012 by using their massive data base for microtargeting of potential voters?

The corporate army is the government army. Especially under corrupt fools like Barack Obama. It is simply loaned out as necessary to do whatever the influential people feel need to be done.

I don't think you comprehend the threat posed by wealth and power rivaling that of governments.

104 posted on 06/20/2017 8:23:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Captain Peter Blood

They won’t expand for delivery. That’s why they’re going Uber style for a lot of deliveries, no expansion necessary, it’s just for hire piece work. Then you add drones. And of course a lot of the country they just won’t bother with on that, it’ll just be in the major metro areas where they have warehouses, and Uber.


105 posted on 06/20/2017 8:23:38 AM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

On some items, I wonder how they are making any money.

Which they may not be.


106 posted on 06/20/2017 8:23:53 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: DiogenesLamp

While I agee with you, it largely doesn’t matter as their corporate masters probably wouldn’t allow it. Like with most ideas limiting government it’s a non starter as the corporate/billionaire side of the opinion gets what they want.


107 posted on 06/20/2017 8:24:10 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Fresh Wind

No no. Comcast should be broken up with artillery.


108 posted on 06/20/2017 8:24:25 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Won’t happen

 

Oh it will happen. Already has in many areas. Read up on it.

 

 

109 posted on 06/20/2017 8:25:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Alberta's Child

I’ll bite. Bezos bought the Brand. Think about the typical Whole Foods shopper.

Of course that Whole Foods moniker will be nothing more than just a name after 6 months.


110 posted on 06/20/2017 8:29:14 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: DiogenesLamp
We can never let any single entity hold so much power, regardless of how they came to hold so much power.

"We"? Who's that?

It's not government, which is also a single entity which has already aggregated too much power. The idea that "we" are the government is a candy coating that totalitarian wannabes use to feed the rest of us their poison pill of dictatorship.

And it does matter very much how somebody gets power. If he does it by providing a better service than everybody else, then so be it. Such is the reward of success.

It's a temporary thing, though. What one does well, some other will eventually do better, and a new player may replace the old.

But, you may say, they don't, or can't, because the existing monopoly will squeeze it out. Well, again, it depends on "how". If the old dog answers the challenge by improving service yet more, then no problem. That is what drives the quality of goods and services in a free market.

It's when a monopoly maintains its position by illegitimate means (and history provides plenty of examples) that there is a problem. The focus changes from the service or goods provided to the customers, to making sure that no other source is available. In the old days, robber barons used goon squads and labor strikes against their competitors, boycotts against upstream vendors, many such underhanded tactics "in restraint of trade", as they are categorized.

Those tactics are illegal, and since those days, law has been spelled out to allow government to sanction such practices. There was a time when it did just that.

Nowadays, the myrmidons of DC have decided that it's too much like work to fight illegal restraint of trade, and more profitable to come to terms with monopolists. Not that they ignore the possible uses of the law when some upstart entrepreneur threatens to crash the party. Remember how they turned the hounds loose on Microsoft (for good cause), and also remember how quickly that all just "went away" with a few "burnt offerings" at the proper altars?

"We" just need to break up the monopolistic government ("drain the swamp") and the existing monopolistic businesses that depend on it to maintain their positions will have to sink or swim.

Ain't no sech thang as "too big to fail!"

111 posted on 06/20/2017 8:29:59 AM PDT by thulldud
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To: Electric Graffiti
If you look at all the heads of these tech monopolies, they’re loyal to one party and a leftist ideology.

The media, judges, lawyers loyal to one party and a leftist ideology.

That, my friends, is how America goes nazi germany. Watch sophie scholls on youtube for how that turns out for the people.

Yes. We are going Nazi, and some of us are too naive to see it happening. I am trying to wake people up to the fact that the conditions which created Nazi Germany are currently working now to create Nazi America. (Without the Nationalism.)

The whole system is slowly being taken over by Socialists. The Amoral version of Capitalism is slowly selling them the rope with which to hang them.

And this is a point I think I need to emphasize. Adam Smith recognized that an immoral capitalism would do evil things. This is why he and Edmund Burke believed that people must restrain their baser instincts or they must be forceably restrained by outside forces.

112 posted on 06/20/2017 8:30:04 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The Bell system was broken up into several regional corporations. Perhaps that is a solution.

Fair enough.

113 posted on 06/20/2017 8:30:16 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say)
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To: Callahan

Just ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon. Well we shall soon see


114 posted on 06/20/2017 8:30:25 AM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: raygunfan

I agree 100%!!!! Also the writer would be best served to understanding that because a company corners a market through growth and innovation does not make said company a Monopoly. A Monopoly is perfectly legal up to the point they use that monopolistic power to illegally take advantage of its customers.

While I don’t agree with his politics he offers an excellent and convenient product! If there is something better out there then stop whaling, crying, moping and flat out b!!!ch!ng. Go out and creat better.

Like I need the Governemnt to break up a perfectly run outfit so it can bring in its hammer of justice and pick winners and losers


115 posted on 06/20/2017 8:31:45 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: discostu

I see trouble ahead with some of this. I work with clients all the time who run into problems when they try to work outside their core business and take on tasks that others have spent decades refining and perfecting.


116 posted on 06/20/2017 8:39:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Alberta's Child

You win for the day! I could tell by your comment that you have a college business background. This is the first thing you learn in business school! Also that monopolies are not illegal if not abused. I see many defending break up do so with no knowledge of business or business law.

They chant break it up out of emotion with no understanding of the economics behind their screed


117 posted on 06/20/2017 8:40:21 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: DiogenesLamp
I can see the day when Amazon will be undercut by a bunch of Mexicans running their own off-the-books operation. If you think that's absurd, remember that this is one of the things that is really hampering Uber's ability to run their business profitably.

As I see it, Amazon's biggest challenge is that it is operating in an industry that is nearly 100% "commoditized" -- meaning it is nothing more than a cheap service where customers expect it to be almost free, and where there is no distinction among brands for customer loyalty.

118 posted on 06/20/2017 8:44:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: moehoward

That would make sense, except that Amazon is operating in a business built on mass-market appeal, not a high-end customer base.


119 posted on 06/20/2017 8:45:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Re #6:
Really well put. Everybody for the last 20 years has been screaming about the power of Walmart. Now they're screaming about the power of Amazon. 20 years from now (or sooner) it may be someone else they're screaming about.

The Free Market can take care of itself.

120 posted on 06/20/2017 8:46:03 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Ted Kennedy burns in hell.)
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