Posted on 03/11/2017 4:57:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Dear Mr. President:
Do NOT under any circumstances endorse or sign RYANcare. RYANcare will immediately become TRUMPcare and that will destroy your credibility and your presidency.
Ryan and the globalist big government GOPe hates you and what you ran on just as much as the democrats and the media. The day you sign TRUMPcare, you own it and they own you. You will be the GOPe's prison bitch. You will also lose your support base and then your tax plan and other trade and economic plans go up in smoke.
Do not settle for anything less than full and complete repeal. If you can't get that from congress, then veto whatever they send up (rinse and repeat as necessary) and if they fail eventually to send up a clean repeal bill then sign nothing and let Obamacare implode on its own.
The crap about 60 votes is crap indeed. They control the senate and the rules. No excuses! This is totally in Republican hands.
If they override your veto, then they own the disaster that follows and you will still have your credibility and your support base. And we are prepared to fight these evil socialist bastards until hell freezes over if necessary.
What happens to the millions of poor people if they lose their health insurance? Well, how did they manage to get health care before Obama? What happened to the millions of people who lost their health care when Obamacare was installed? What happened to the millions who lost their jobs due to Obamacare? What's happening to our economy and our national debt as a result of socialist programs? What happens to our people when the government finally goes bust?
Look, the media, the democrats, the GOPe, the globalists, the corporatists, the crony capitalists, the socialists, the illegals, the Mohammedists, etc, are all going to hate you no matter what you do. Do not under any circumstances blink, retreat or cave-in to their socialist demands. That would be the end of your moral authority and the resulting continuation of unchecked big government will lead to the ultimate collapse of our economy.
Worst case, if the current socialist government/crony capitalist corporate healthcare insurance industry implodes, we will still survive as a free nation and free people. We have faith in God, our constitution, our free markets and our ability to overcome major obstacles. We shall overcome and persevere.
If we slay the federal behemoth and get back to free markets, we will find that government costs will come down, the economy will soar, healthcare costs will come down, federal tax rates can come down, and as more companies are profiting and more people are working, federal and state tax receipts will actually increase. And truly destitute people who cannot provide for themselves can be supported by local and state programs as intended.
Hold the line. America will love you for it in the long run.
No you are right. It isn’t because Trump doesn’t have a plan this is Ryan’s plan and it is worse than Obamacare. As to parts 2 and 3: What are exactly parts 2 and 3? You seen them? You certain they exist or just to buy time? If I ever ran in a presentation with my current job and just spit out the same words with not even a scintilla of a high level overview of what parts 2 and 3 were I’d be frog matched to the front door.
I believe some are gulliable into believing something exists without proof. It pays to ask when someone makes a statement about additional plans to put them to task to show it.
The ONLY "RINO buddy" who joined her in opposing the Senate Republicans last time around was Mark Kirk... and he's no longer in office now.
So, based on the facts, its already been established that Senate Republicans can muster a majority to vote for FULL REPEAL, no matter how much Susan Collins cries about it.
I just told you that many of us already are contacting our representatives. I know this for a fact.
You, on the other hand, assume everyone just sits behind a keyboard and complains. You know what they say about ‘assuming’.
And yes, those inside the Beltway (both parties) lurk on FR to get a feel for what the conservative base is thinking. If you think that doesn’t have an effect, you’re mistaken there as well.
Fact is, you’re wrong on several levels.
You need to get out more. But first, take two aspirin and get back to me in the morning.
Trump has always delivered on his promises up to this point. I don’t have the time to tick off his accomplishments so far.
I already laid out the case that this is Ryan-care, and it would be slander to call it Trump-Care.
Ryan lied to Hannity to boot, so while Trump needs to appear friendly in public and needs to work with whoever the Republican House Speaker happens to be — THAT is no reason to blame him.
I’m sensing the old Patomac Two-Step here. Drop a stink bomb, try to ram it through while opposition is confused, and plan ahead to pin it on someone else — usually the guy you hate the most.
Classic DC politics.
Oh, didn’t mean to duck your question.
Phase 2 and 3 is carrying out Trump’s promise.
This makes me think of Reagan getting stuck with Amnesty. Congress promised him that after amnesty he would get a secure border. But they two-stepped him. To this day the Establishment points out that Reagan supported amnesty.
Full repeal was easy back when Obama was president. Whole different animal now.
If you don’t pay Medicare taxes, you go to jail.
Yep.
And when (not if) he supports it, I wonder what the apologist response will be?
We shall see how intellectually honest the Trump supporters here are, because it's a guarantee. He's going to support this compromise. It's called "the art of the deal".
Thank you so much for the post. I think this will get his attention, you have credibility and clout.
RinoCare is the wrong move.
In other words, Republicans have the votes to pass Full Repeal no matter how much Susan Collins cries about it.
They just lack the willpower to do so if Obama isn't there to veto it.
Pretty much my point from the beginning.
‘In other words, Republicans have the votes to pass Full Repeal no matter how much Susan Collins cries about it.’
That’s your take. Good luck with that.
I’m with you 100% but it would pay GREATLY to show the public precisely what phase 2 and 3 are. Regardless if it has 100% of what Trump wants in it I still want to see what Trumps plan is. On the trail he stated he wanted to fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with a great plan. That is all he would say is that it will be a great plan without details. I know at points in his career he’s been for Universal care. To which I don’t agree.
If I were Trump I’d take no promises from Congress and make them put up or shut up. Reminds me of Wimpy I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. For if he signs it with those promises (as with Reagan) he owns it.
As Regan would also say trust but verify :-) I miss him.
Hear hear.
Then give them their money back, with interest, and close shop. Medicare needs to go.
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