Posted on 02/09/2017 4:01:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Vanity Discussion Question: Can the president ignore the court order and continue with his valid executive order?
It appears the president is acting in accordance to his constitutional powers and specifically in accordance to laws regarding immigration and has been challenged and overridden by an unconstitutionally political activist (liberal) court.
If so, can he can he continue with his valid orders controlling the actions of the executive branch? No doubt this would set up a "constitutional crisis" but this is going to happen soon anyway as it's the only way we will ever restore constitutional government, ie, the liberal activist courts will have to be toppled eventually. Why not now while we have a strong president and Republican majorities in both housees of congress?
Just askin'.
Not without provoking a constitutional crisis.
He’s within his authority under the law as well as within the confines of the Constitution to ignore them. I would if I were him.
It is high time to get rid of these traitor judges.
NO!
He didn’t cause one. The Federal Judges did.
Title 8 § 12 US Code Part II 1182 (f):
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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States,
he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants,
or impose on entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Yes he can. I was surprised when he decided to comply with the lunatic Oregon judge’s ruling. There are rulings from other courts that conflict with the 9th circuit. I just wish he hadn’t acted like he had to follow it, if he decides not to, the libs will act like he is burning the constitution when in fact it’s the courts that are.
The Judiciary has no authority to override the president’s authority. That’s called separation of powers. And they don’t have the authority to decide cases involving non U.S. citizens.
The big problem I see is that the 9th Circus is emboldened by the 4-4 split at SCOTUS. They are used to getting reversed, but feel that will not happen now.
I’ve been arguing this very point. The court can issue its edict, no matter how un-Constitutional in its overreach, and the President can ignore it, as he is acting well within his authority to do so.
I already said that.
No. But he can proceed with the development of the improved vetting process that would have been implemented at the end of the temporary ban. The courts can’t say Jack about that.
If he ignores a court decision, the impeachment proceedings will start next week. And most republicans will side with the democrats. This could be a trap.
The President relies on others to carry out his orders. I’d bet the permanent bureaucracy will follow the Court and ignore Trump’s EOs.
Congress needs to eliminate lower court (below SCOTUS) jurisdiction to hear any cases involving the issuance of travel visas to alients.
Then, Congress needs to pass new legislation giving the President even more power in this area.
the 9th court will have blood on their hands if there is a terrorist attack from illegals, or undocumented persons....
Impeach the judges who are purposely subverting the Constitution and the President’s powers.
He could do it but it so early in his administration that it would distract from getting other things done where he needs Congress like tax cuts and getting rid of ObamaCare. I sure would not want his whole first term mired in the immigration issue.
I think a better plan is to get Gorsuch in place first and then prevail in the SC.
We are already in a Constitutional crisis. The US court system now says the President cannot protect us from illegal aliens-in the US-and, perhaps, anywhere.
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