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Vanity: Can the president ignore the court and continue with his valid executive order?
February 9, 2017 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/09/2017 4:01:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Vanity Discussion Question: Can the president ignore the court order and continue with his valid executive order?

It appears the president is acting in accordance to his constitutional powers and specifically in accordance to laws regarding immigration and has been challenged and overridden by an unconstitutionally political activist (liberal) court.

If so, can he can he continue with his valid orders controlling the actions of the executive branch? No doubt this would set up a "constitutional crisis" but this is going to happen soon anyway as it's the only way we will ever restore constitutional government, ie, the liberal activist courts will have to be toppled eventually. Why not now while we have a strong president and Republican majorities in both housees of congress?

Just askin'.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; coequalbranches; commanderinchief; conflictofpowers; consitutionalcrisis; constitution; courts; immigration; judicialactivism; judicialtyranny; nationalsecurity; publicsafety; ruleoflaw; separationofpowers; travelban; trump; waronterror
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1 posted on 02/09/2017 4:01:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Not without provoking a constitutional crisis.


2 posted on 02/09/2017 4:02:56 PM PST by TheConservator ("The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle)
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He’s within his authority under the law as well as within the confines of the Constitution to ignore them. I would if I were him.


3 posted on 02/09/2017 4:03:12 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is high time to get rid of these traitor judges.


4 posted on 02/09/2017 4:03:34 PM PST by sipow
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To: TheConservator

NO!

He didn’t cause one. The Federal Judges did.


5 posted on 02/09/2017 4:03:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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Stop ALL immigration whatsoever, immediately.

Title 8 § 12 US Code Part II 1182 (f):
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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States,
he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants,
or impose on entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

6 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:05 PM PST by tomkat
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Yes he can. I was surprised when he decided to comply with the lunatic Oregon judge’s ruling. There are rulings from other courts that conflict with the 9th circuit. I just wish he hadn’t acted like he had to follow it, if he decides not to, the libs will act like he is burning the constitution when in fact it’s the courts that are.


7 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:08 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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The Judiciary has no authority to override the president’s authority. That’s called separation of powers. And they don’t have the authority to decide cases involving non U.S. citizens.


8 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:31 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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The big problem I see is that the 9th Circus is emboldened by the 4-4 split at SCOTUS. They are used to getting reversed, but feel that will not happen now.


9 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:55 PM PST by dirtboy
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I’ve been arguing this very point. The court can issue its edict, no matter how un-Constitutional in its overreach, and the President can ignore it, as he is acting well within his authority to do so.


10 posted on 02/09/2017 4:05:21 PM PST by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: TheConservator

I already said that.


11 posted on 02/09/2017 4:05:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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No. But he can proceed with the development of the improved vetting process that would have been implemented at the end of the temporary ban. The courts can’t say Jack about that.


12 posted on 02/09/2017 4:05:35 PM PST by Wolfie
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If he ignores a court decision, the impeachment proceedings will start next week. And most republicans will side with the democrats. This could be a trap.


13 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:06 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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The President relies on others to carry out his orders. I’d bet the permanent bureaucracy will follow the Court and ignore Trump’s EOs.


14 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:10 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Congress needs to eliminate lower court (below SCOTUS) jurisdiction to hear any cases involving the issuance of travel visas to alients.

Then, Congress needs to pass new legislation giving the President even more power in this area.


15 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:11 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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the 9th court will have blood on their hands if there is a terrorist attack from illegals, or undocumented persons....


16 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:22 PM PST by B212
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Impeach the judges who are purposely subverting the Constitution and the President’s powers.


17 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:00 PM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Jim Robinson

He could do it but it so early in his administration that it would distract from getting other things done where he needs Congress like tax cuts and getting rid of ObamaCare. I sure would not want his whole first term mired in the immigration issue.

I think a better plan is to get Gorsuch in place first and then prevail in the SC.


18 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:36 PM PST by plain talk
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To: TheConservator

We are already in a Constitutional crisis. The US court system now says the President cannot protect us from illegal aliens-in the US-and, perhaps, anywhere.


19 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:38 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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How To Remove a Federal Judge (without impeachment)
20 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:44 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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