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1 posted on 02/09/2017 4:01:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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Not without provoking a constitutional crisis.


2 posted on 02/09/2017 4:02:56 PM PST by TheConservator ("The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle)
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He’s within his authority under the law as well as within the confines of the Constitution to ignore them. I would if I were him.


3 posted on 02/09/2017 4:03:12 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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It is high time to get rid of these traitor judges.


4 posted on 02/09/2017 4:03:34 PM PST by sipow
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Stop ALL immigration whatsoever, immediately.

Title 8 § 12 US Code Part II 1182 (f):
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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States,
he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants,
or impose on entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

6 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:05 PM PST by tomkat
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Yes he can. I was surprised when he decided to comply with the lunatic Oregon judge’s ruling. There are rulings from other courts that conflict with the 9th circuit. I just wish he hadn’t acted like he had to follow it, if he decides not to, the libs will act like he is burning the constitution when in fact it’s the courts that are.


7 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:08 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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The Judiciary has no authority to override the president’s authority. That’s called separation of powers. And they don’t have the authority to decide cases involving non U.S. citizens.


8 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:31 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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The big problem I see is that the 9th Circus is emboldened by the 4-4 split at SCOTUS. They are used to getting reversed, but feel that will not happen now.


9 posted on 02/09/2017 4:04:55 PM PST by dirtboy
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I’ve been arguing this very point. The court can issue its edict, no matter how un-Constitutional in its overreach, and the President can ignore it, as he is acting well within his authority to do so.


10 posted on 02/09/2017 4:05:21 PM PST by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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No. But he can proceed with the development of the improved vetting process that would have been implemented at the end of the temporary ban. The courts can’t say Jack about that.


12 posted on 02/09/2017 4:05:35 PM PST by Wolfie
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If he ignores a court decision, the impeachment proceedings will start next week. And most republicans will side with the democrats. This could be a trap.


13 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:06 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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The President relies on others to carry out his orders. I’d bet the permanent bureaucracy will follow the Court and ignore Trump’s EOs.


14 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:10 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Congress needs to eliminate lower court (below SCOTUS) jurisdiction to hear any cases involving the issuance of travel visas to alients.

Then, Congress needs to pass new legislation giving the President even more power in this area.


15 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:11 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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the 9th court will have blood on their hands if there is a terrorist attack from illegals, or undocumented persons....


16 posted on 02/09/2017 4:06:22 PM PST by B212
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Impeach the judges who are purposely subverting the Constitution and the President’s powers.


17 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:00 PM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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He could do it but it so early in his administration that it would distract from getting other things done where he needs Congress like tax cuts and getting rid of ObamaCare. I sure would not want his whole first term mired in the immigration issue.

I think a better plan is to get Gorsuch in place first and then prevail in the SC.


18 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:36 PM PST by plain talk
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How To Remove a Federal Judge (without impeachment)
20 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:44 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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Of course he can. Judges aren’t tyrants they just act that way b/c we the people let them.


21 posted on 02/09/2017 4:07:58 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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yes he certainly may do just that, Jim
the constitution and statutory law being so crystal clear...

just be ready for the DNC/SorozNazis/IslamoNazi-CAIR MB and MSA to all scream “constitutional crisis”....is all

i think they’ve forced his hand tho, as keeping the door so wide open to even more Islamic terrorists flooding into USA cities and towns.............is dangerous and untenable

I think the leftist cabal has forced DJT to issue anpother order slamming the MoslemTerrorists-Are-Welcome door much harder in the SHUT position

imho

and let the chips fall where they may


22 posted on 02/09/2017 4:08:19 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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What I don't get is how two courts of law could rule against what is plainly stated in the law. When the courts refuse to enforce the law as plainly written and commonly observed, what stops a judge from declaring the election null and void, which a lot of liberals were screaming for, or even declaring himself the President until a new election can be held?

Certainly not the law, since these black robed dictators clearly think they ARE the law. This has to stop, period.

23 posted on 02/09/2017 4:08:26 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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This ruling is in direct contravention to the Constitutional requirement that, “The United States…shall protect each of [the states] against Invasion” (Article IV, Section 4) which should have trumped the TRO (illegal and potentially dangerous immigration is invasion). I think trump could give notice why these proceedings are an unconstitutional block on constitutional necessary and proper federal action and ignore the ruling and block the immigrants.

The case in the Robart court in Washington wasn’t a good faith challenge to the merits of Trump’s EO but a move to issue a temporary restraining order (TRO) which was issued in bad faith IMO since no irreparable harm was shown to validate a TRO. It’s a TRO//restraining order hearing where they’re arguing the merits of the EO instead of proving the need for a TRO/restraining order and they have failed to do so as I see it. Freaking Leftist courts.

The U.S. Code Title 8, Chapter 12 statue appears to be contradictory because of U.S.C. 1152 (a)(1)(a) (anti-discrimination clause) which is being used in these challenges. Congress needs to clean that up.

Nevertheless, Article IV, Section 4 absolutely trumps the valid or invalid TRO/restraining order.

Constitutional crisis? We’ve had that for decades - time to bring it to light.


24 posted on 02/09/2017 4:08:30 PM PST by Jim W N
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