...Americans don’t answer surveys so where does poll data come from?....
The DNC
I received an automated poll call last night. When I answered “press 1 for Trump”, I pressed 1, and the call hang up. Probably makes it easier to get the results they want.
I worked for DnB before they quit investigating businesses and started using their enormous data base to “predict” credit worthiness. Over time, the data became less and less accurate. Garbage in . . .
Regardless of how real a call sounds, if I detect the least delay in in I say “f@ck you and your computer.”
For real people, I tolerate ONE question and ONE question only and I tell them they’d better make it count because if they want my opinion, one question is all that’s needed. The rest of this 3-7 minute hoop jumping questions is nothing but exploitation, very likely with push-poll implications designed to fake real opinion.
ONE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Memes:
Voodoo polling
Polling malpractice
Even tho I’m on the ‘don’t call list’, the phone is ringing constantly. I just don’t answer anymore unless a voice comes on that I recognize — or look at the incoming number.
Sometimes I call a number back just to hear who answers, but most of the time, no one is there.
Spam calls have made a mess of our phone system and this affects honest poll callers.(are there honest phone callers?)
good post
We Freepers complain about the inaccuracy of the polls but we are some of the biggest offenders of ignoring pollsters. Me included.
For presidential elections, I tell people “If you don’t vote, you can’t complain”. It kind of applies to the polls too.
In 2 weeks we can set off the political equivalent of a neutron bomb on D.C.’s ruling elites.
Americans don’t answer surveys so where does poll data come from?............From their rear ends.................
I am polled repeatedly every election cycle. I don’t know anybody else who has ever been polled. They poll the same people (who answer the phone) over and over again.
“He continued saying he concluded that “most of these biases can be corrected through demographic weighting of the sort that is nearly universally used by pollsters.””
Nonsense. Demographic weighting assumes you already know how every demographic is going to vote, and if that is true, there would be no need for polls in the first place. It’s just a method to fudge bad results to make them less obviously bad. It may be harmless in very small doses, but if the current method makes it a mandatory part of the process, then the current method is fundamentally flawed.
I do not trust polls.
The underlying assumption is that if you have the “right” proportion of white/black/Hispanic and the right proportion of men/women for each, and the right proportions of young/old and married/unmarried, or if you can correct for discrepancies, then you know what is really happening.
The fundamental flaw here is that those who choose to answer are different from those who (1) are too busy to answer, or (2) don’t trust the system enough to answer. In previous years, we knew how big those errors were likely to be and in what direction. This year, the response rate is way down and we have no clue what the unknown errors are.
Pollsters have turned to Internet-based surveys, more so in 2016 than previous years. These have their own built-in Dem lean as e.g. welfare recipients and other such idle hands tend to busy themselves with them more than most folk. Couple that with absurd voter participation models and the Clinton campaign thumb on the scale and you get a Clinton landslide... in the fictional world of polling. This election is uncharted territory.
It comes from the ever-diminishing pool of individuals who still answer calls from unknown numbers instead of presuming it’s another credit card/loan scam-spam call.
The data comes out of their traitorous a$$.
The MSMLSD people do what they do. Lie.