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RNC Committeewoman Claims Rubio and Cruz Both Ineligible for Presidency
mediaite.com ^ | February 15

Posted on 02/15/2016 7:23:05 PM PST by Helicondelta

A Republican National committeewoman from Nevada just proposed that not only is Cruz not eligible to be president, but GOP rival Marco Rubio isn't either.

Cruz's Canadian birthplace has been dragged through the press relentlessly over the last few weeks, but Rubio's birth to immigrant parents hasn't been discussed as much. Enter Diana Orrock, who not only serves the RNC, but is running for the Nevada state assembly.

She tweeted a link to an article by Devvy Kidd on conservative website News With Views. Kidd contends that because Rubio's parents were born elsewhere and weren't naturalized as citizens until he was four years old, he cannot run for the nation's highest office.

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KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; 2016election; 2016issues; anchorbaby; cruz; election; eligibility; naturalborn; repositorycruz; rubio; rubioanchorbaby
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To: Lurkinanloomin

We need proof, i.e. documentation.

We’re not going to take his word. Trump has been asked to show his Mother’s Naturalization Certificate to no avail.


61 posted on 02/15/2016 7:47:27 PM PST by JerseyRepub (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: Helicondelta

Well good for her. She’s wrong. Rubio was born on U.S. soil to parents legally within the United States. That meets the definition of natural born citizen, both as it was defined by common law where the term was derived when the Constitution was written, and also as adjudicated multiple times in Court cases, including rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court. This is not debatable or disputable. No one who states otherwise could even the most basic knowledge of this issue, nor could they have made even the slightest attempt to research it.

Ted Cruz was born to an American mother - there is no evidence he needed to go through a naturalization process to become a U.S. Citizen. So either he was a U.S. Citizen at birth, or he is not a citizen at all. If the latter, he is not eligible to be a U.S. Senator, either - and would be an illegal immigrant and need to be deported to Canada. Is anyone actually making this claim?


62 posted on 02/15/2016 7:50:14 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Helicondelta

I agree completely. Neither Ted Cruz, nor Marco Rubio, nor Barack Obama, nor Chester Arthur are natural born citizens. That being said, Ted Cruz is still the only one in the pack I completely trust to defend the God-given rights of citizens in this democratic republic. I wish he had handled his situation better (acknowledge the concerns of his conservative birther base, continue his campaign in good faith that like Barack Obama he would be vetted an NBC, and promise to use the influence of the Executive Branch of government to request a judicial review of the matter from the Judicial Branch of government so the matter can become settled law for future presidential candidates once installed as POTUS). Maybe he still will. In the meantime, we are in a revolutionary war. Our team may well be being "breitbarted" before our very eyes. While in the foxhole, I give my back to the one I trust, and right now that is Ted Cruz.


63 posted on 02/15/2016 7:51:03 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Jane Long; hoosiermama; AuntB

http://powderedwigsociety.com/eligibility-of-cruz-and-rubio/#

Pretty powerful and easy to understand presentation about Cruz and Rubio’s eligibility to run for POTUS.

I even started a thread with the link.


64 posted on 02/15/2016 7:51:22 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SaveFerris

http://powderedwigsociety.com/eligibility-of-cruz-and-rubio/#

Pretty powerful and easy to understand presentation about Cruz and Rubio’s eligibility to run for POTUS.


65 posted on 02/15/2016 7:51:54 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Helicondelta
You need an avatar, helicon...


66 posted on 02/15/2016 7:52:00 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: JerseyRepub
"The Orange Clown ... "

The Hierarchy of Argument - where do you land?


67 posted on 02/15/2016 7:52:22 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: JerseyRepub

http://powderedwigsociety.com/eligibility-of-cruz-and-rubio/#

Pretty powerful and easy to understand presentation about Cruz and Rubio’s eligibility to run for POTUS.


68 posted on 02/15/2016 7:52:27 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: DouglasKC

Unfortunately yes they could...and probably have...if they were legally in the U.S. at the time of the birth. If they were both illegally in the U.S. at the time - that matter has never been fully adjudicated. But that is not the case with Rubio - his parents were both in the U.S. legally at the time of his birth.


69 posted on 02/15/2016 7:52:31 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: ASA Vet

How appropriate. Donald Trump was born on flag day, June 14.

GO TRUMP!


70 posted on 02/15/2016 7:53:25 PM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: ASA Vet

OK
I found it here:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3384215/posts?page=24#24
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Thanks!


71 posted on 02/15/2016 7:54:14 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: tinyowl

“This proves that Trump is a liberal.”


Not only that ! It proves 70% of the voters are against Trump !!
Unfortunately it also means 80% are against Cruz, but never mind that, because GROUND GAME!


72 posted on 02/15/2016 7:54:23 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Sorry, according to the US Code that is not correct.
A citizen at birth is a natural born citizen and has never needed to be naturalized.

According to U.S.C Title 8 Section 1101 - Definitions (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1101) subsection A part (23), the term “naturalization” ONLY occurs after being born. Thus a person who, by the circumstances of their birth is a citizen, and never needs to be naturalized is a natural born citizen.

It is organic to a nation state to define it’s boundaries as well as it’s citizens. Every nation does this. The US Constitution vests the authority to determine the rules of naturalization - which includes all rules, with Congress. This is specifically enumerated in Article I Section 8.

Thus Congress is vested with the authority to determine who are aliens and need to be naturalized in order to be a citizen. It also is vested with the authority to determine who is a citizen. Some are citizens via naturalization, some are citizens AT BIRTH (the at birth is important). Congress has addressed this issue by determining who is a citizen at birth. The current state of the law is addressed in Title 8 section 1401 - Citizens at birth (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401).

Under subsection A of that code, all who are born on US soil are US Citizens at birth and having never been naturalized are therefore natural born citizens

Under subsection G of that code (even the prior version), all who are born to at least one US citizen parent, as long as that parent has met the time requirements for residence inside the US, is also a citizen at birth. And like subsection A above, have never been naturalized and are therefore natural born citizens.


73 posted on 02/15/2016 7:58:38 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

like your definition.


74 posted on 02/15/2016 7:58:41 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Helicondelta

Diana Orrock is right on both counts. Cruz and Rubio should both drop out of the race to show their solidarity with the Constitution.

Besides, if either one of them made it to the nomination, they’d have their eligibility challenged in court by the Dems. It would go all the way to the Supreme Court, and miracle of miracles, the leftists on the court would finally side with the Framers.

There is simply no path to the White House for either of these candidates.


75 posted on 02/15/2016 8:00:23 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: moehoward
"but never mind that, because GROUND GAME!"

That too. Add to that how stupid the Trumpkins are, and not only is Trump Liberal, but he's also an Orange Clown as has also been pointed out.

No one who is an Orange Clown, where there is GROUND GAME, is not liberal.

Therefore, Trump is a traitor and a narcissist and would appoint Michele Obama to replace Scalia.

76 posted on 02/15/2016 8:01:54 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: JerseyRepub

Lazy. Look it up yourself

March 10, 1942, issued a naturalization certificate by the U.S. District Court at Brooklyn, NY.


77 posted on 02/15/2016 8:02:17 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans!)
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To: JerseyRepub

March 10, 1942, issued a naturalization certificate by the U.S. District Court at Brooklyn, NY.


78 posted on 02/15/2016 8:03:35 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans!)
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To: taxcontrol

thus, hypothetically, does this say a naturalized citizen, who joined the army, fought and earned the medal of honor in battle for America, would be ineligible, while a baby born to a communist chinese national here on a vaction trip, would be? man oh man.


79 posted on 02/15/2016 8:08:45 PM PST by dadfly
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To: JerseyRepub
The Trumpster's mother was born in Scotland and there is no proof she acquired US citizen by the time the Trumpster was born. He needs to prove his mother was a naturalized US citizen at his birth, otherwise I am suing his orange oompa loompa ass.



Have a good evening...
80 posted on 02/15/2016 8:08:54 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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