It means that Trump supporters have come up with new lies to beat the same dead horse with.
Posted on 02/13/2016 9:12:01 AM PST by Dana1960
Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D. a retired colonel with 29 years of experience in the US Army Reserve, argues that Senator Ted Cruz entered the United States illegally as a child in 1974. His parents failed to file a CRBA form which is required by US law. Ted’s parents did not fill out the required form until 1986.
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No....Cruz was not officially American until he was 17, and this is sad news.
Now wait a minute...so is it yes or no?
It could be true that his mom ordered his certificate at birth, but I would think he would have proudly showed that document. It’s strange that the only document of his that he has shown was a Canadian birth certificate, which is meaningless to the presidency.
If his consular birth abroad document is from his 17th year, he isn’t showing it, because everyone then thinks, gee, he wasn’t American until he was 16: how is he natural born?
And I find it dishonest of him not to explain this.
Trump is an astute schmoozer. It costs him nothing to praise Thomas, and it might gain him support. He did the same thing with the "birther" movement, and it didn't hurt him in the slightest. As a matter of fact, I have long thought that Trump's support of we "birthers" was an early indication he was going to try to run for President.
Republicans run away from Thomas because the left tarred & feathered him so well. I admire Trump for having the guts to stand up for Thomas.
I am glad that Trump praises Thomas, but I don't regard this as a solid foundation on which to judge his future supreme court and federal court nominees.
My fear is that he will nominate liberals and moderates. That's the sort of people he's lived among all his life.
sorry that should have said “Where does you link you posted say it resets IF a person simply leaves for a day or so?”
You are missing the point that a citizen and a natural born citizen are two separate entities. The latter is REQUIRED to be president and command in chief. Cruz is not natural born.
“Uh huh. Go back to your sincere efforts to turn this country into an Idiocracy.”
Stick finger in ears. Shout “la la la”.
Yes it is, and that is all that it is. Perhaps you mean that a CRBA is not necessary to establish citizenship, and with that, I would agree.
While he was “American” from birth, he couldn’t have proved it with documentation. My drivers license analogy does stand: you can be a great driver but you can’t prove it legally without paperwork.
Any idiot, including me, knew this when pregnant abroad. My son had his USA BC within days of his birth overseas.
If he were asked to show ID papers any time from birth to 16, he only had Canadian. According to the info we have today.
If she registered at a US Consulate, then it had to be done in a foreign country. US Consulates don’t exist inside the US.
“His parents failed to file a CRBA form which is required by US law [When he was born]. Ted’s parents did not fill out the required form until 1986.” Note that Ted was still a minor at that time.
That was all it took for Ted to be NATURALIZED in 1986 under the Immigration and Naturalization Law in effect in 1986. This proves that he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, although he was a natural-born citizen of Canada.
child born abroad showed up at the consulate the next day, saying, “here’s the newest American citizen, we are so proud to get that CRBAâ€, that’s evidence of INTENT. If they don’t, and in fact wait 16 years, it’s also evidence of INTENT.
A brilliant legal point here.
(And as dumb as I was, you betcha I showed up at that embassy to get that document for my son ASAP.)
At this point I don’t care. If they tolerated Obama, then they can tolerate Cruz.
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So TWO WRONGS MAKE A RIGHT?
It means that Trump supporters have come up with new lies to beat the same dead horse with.
I’m not missing anything-
Some debate exists as to the meaning of this phrase. Consensus exists that anyone born on U.S. soil is a -natural born Citizen.- One may also be a -natural born Citizen- if, despite a birth on foreign soil, U.S. citizenship immediately passes from the person’s parents.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
That’s the whole point of this issue- the meaning of natural born- and even legal scholars don’t agree on what it means- however the consensus leans towards the above-
Should the sins of the father be visited upon the son?
“My fear is that he will nominate liberals and moderates. That’s the sort of people he’s lived among all his life.”
Cruz is the one that helped get his friend, Justice Roberts, appointed.
It can cost Trump votes to praise Thomas. I’ve lost friends over my support of Thomas. People believe the media hype that Anita Hill was sexually harassed, even though she followed him to the next job. I’ve also had to argued with people that he is a very capable justice and not just a Scalia follower.
No. Who is considered a Natural Born Citizen has never been adjudicated by any court.
Thanks-—nice deconstruction.
The problem is that courts have in recent years made the term’ intent’ much harder to prove in regards to a person wishing to expatriate- it is I believe almost to the point where a formal declaration of expatriation needs to be made and recorded- not quite, but almost- It’s much harder today for courts to imply aN ‘intent was made’ simply because a person didn’t act, and as I’ve posted a couple of times, a child born to a us citizen abroad doesn’t have to apply for CRBA nor a certificate of citizenship in order to be a citizen- the only requirement was that the mother be present in Us for a year or so before the child was born- Her sovereign right of citizenship is passed to her child at birth- and as her child is a minor, the child’s ‘allegiance’ is the same as her mother’s or father’s- whichever was the citizen and whichever met certain requirements depending on the situation
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