Posted on 02/13/2016 9:12:01 AM PST by Dana1960
Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D. a retired colonel with 29 years of experience in the US Army Reserve, argues that Senator Ted Cruz entered the United States illegally as a child in 1974. His parents failed to file a CRBA form which is required by US law. Tedâs parents did not fill out the required form until 1986.
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Excellent point.
In my opinion, all illegal aliens are criminals, even if they havenât been apprehended and charged for the myriad of crimes they must commit daily to further their illegal presence, ie., fake documents, illegally working, etc.
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I agree.
Cruz is playing the Trump is a “meanie card”. I do not believe Cruz has any intention of deporting anyone who has not committed a crime.
The thing that is fascinating to me was his statement that he did not know he had Canadian citizenship until 2013.
The article states that when Ted wanted to go on a (high) school trip, he was required to get a passport. In order to obtain the passport Ted needed to get a document from the consulate. Is it rational to believe that Ted was not aware in 1986 of the fact that he was still at that time Canadian?
We either believe he did not know which is irrational or Cruz lied.
Why did he tell that lie? Why?
The underlying facts are what produce his US citizenship. He can have the claim adjudicted by the State Department up until he is 18, and by Immigration at any time after that.
+1,000
Cruz probably didn’t get the CRBA (birth certificate) until he got a passport for that high school trip. I don’t see a reason for a ‘70’s-80’s kid needing a second birth certificate for anything else. Mom just used the Canadian one would be my guess. I assume that fact is why he is hiding the CRBA info.
That said, I think Cruz's parents would have to apply for citizenship after the birth. The article I cut and pasted from Immigration linked to a form N-400 that had to be filed to claim citizenship. The N-400 is a Naturalization form if I understand it correctly.
Seems like it would be easy enough for Cruz to show the CRBA.
That would put an end to all of this.
But I wish he had been honest about this and gotten it fixed a year ago.
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This is not something he could fix. One is either born here of citizen parents and is naturally born a US citizen because one cannot possibly be anything else or one is not.
It’s tragic that the best thing to happen to the US Senate in a generation is not eligible to be President, but he is not.
Yes, a child born to two American parents in the USA does need to bring an official copy of his BC to the passport office to get a passport.
As for Obama his past is so murky who knows what the truth is. I saw a very good story that Obama may in fact be the illegitimate son of Frank Marshall Davis and his mother someone unknown and rest with Obama and Ann Durham contrived. Nothing that can't be cleared up with a DNA test.
It has never been adjudicated. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a Natural Born Citizen but the particular facts concerning Cruz have never been adjudicated. I lean towards him being a Natural Born Citizen.
It seems to be something that Obama has brought to America this idea that I can make a definition stand on its head because it suits me better that way and you have to prove that I’m not right.
We now live in a banana republic where the laws are only as good as the elites want them to be. Ted Cruz knew the definition of a natural born citizen 3 years ago and stated it clearly, now it seems there’s some wiggle room now that Obama has trashed contract and civil laws repeatedly.
You left out the MARRIED part of the equation.
And, YES!
[[If they did not get a CRBA till 1986 that means that Cruz was designated a Canadian at birth.]]
There is nothing that bars someone who was a dual citizen from being president if the dual citizen was a US citizen ‘at birth’ or ‘by descent’
It comes down to ‘allegiance’- A child born to a US citizen is under that sovereign parent’s ‘allegiance to the US’ while the child is still a child (until age 18 or whatever age it is)- After age 18 the child, now an adult, can, if they so choose, expatriate themselves by going through a process, and by swearing allegiance to another country if they wish- That is a right protected by constitution/statute- the right of a Sovereign US citizen to expatriate themselves if they so wish- but it is a process (or act so obvious that there is no question the person ‘means to expatriate themselves’ such as treason, joining another country to fight against the US etc)
While it is murky, the evidence weighs now more o n the side of a child being under the allegiance of the US if born to a sovereign us citizen either here or abroad-
I don’t see any time frame requirement in the section you posted, for example “...within 60 days...”. Also, other than not being able to get a passport,which could immediately remedied by completing the CRBA, no penalty is mentioned.
To me that would say Ted is not an “illegal” alien. Besides, the liberals tell us no person is illegal, including Ted.
Under the law that applies to Ted, he is required to have 5 continuous years of US presence between the ages of 14 and 28, in order to keep his citizenship.
66 Stat Sec. 301(a)(7) and 301(b)
We have to know his presence abroad between the ages of 14 and 28 to know if he is a citizen, today.
Yes, the requirement didn’t start until the 2000s.
Agree.
It gives the appearance of impropriety...I don’t see any downside to releasing it otherwise.
I’ve looked at the form (posted up thread) it’s vanilla stuff.
If there’s an address or something they want to redact no big deal.
NO!
The facts don’t need CBRA paperwork to substantiate them, as the Birth Certificate does that.
True, but I found it and I used it (hotlinked)
It's also true that Freeman voice, accent and inflection makes his lines sound profound and intellectual. That's why he's been the victim of many quote hoaxes.
Per US naturalisation law, as well as the common law interpretation of the natural born citizen clause, Ted Cruz was born with naturalised American citizenship.
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NATURALIZATION is NOT NATURAL BORN! A natural born citizen is one who requires no statute to make him a citizen. Ted Cruz requires a statute to make him a citizen. A natural born citizen is one who can be nothing other than American. Born on the soil of two citizen parents. As described in Vattel’s Law of Nations.
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