Posted on 09/15/2015 9:00:48 PM PDT by WTFOVR
In a 2001 speech, delivered by Fiorina in Aspen, CO, at the Progress and Freedom Foundation Seventh Annual Summit, she stated the following:
“The San Jose Mercury reported: “Hewlett-Packard’s Chief Executive Officer, Carly Fiorina, opened the conference with a scholarly address. She did not give interviews, but she did mention a reporter in her speech—a young guy who couldn’t spell the name of the 19th Century philosopher, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (as in “Hegel you know, the process of Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis? I use it every day,” said Fiorina). (San Jose Mercury 8/27/2001-Jennifer Files reporter).
In response to the article (9/2/2001) the San Jose Mercury published the following letter to the editor:
"Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina’s reported “Getaway to Aspen parallels valley lifestyle, mindset” makes an astonishing remark in her opening address to a recent conference of tech leaders in Aspen, Colorado. Hailing the philosophy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel’s dialectic process, she claims to ‘use it every day.’ Karl Marx preached it, Nicolai Lenin implemented it in Russia in the early 20th Century, and now we have Hegel’s dialectic preached and practiced in 21st Century high–tech industry. And all this time we were led to believe communism was dead!" — Mary Thompson
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Fiorina stated her devotion to Hegelian Dialectics as a tool for decision making, suggesting the synthesis of the status of schools to be "charter schools." Charter schools are tax funded, but have no accountability to local school boards ... to wit: taxation without representation.
Source Document:
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/aspen_01.html
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Carly Fiorina is using Marxist techniques. Why would a conservative use the collectivist ideas of Hegel?
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Also see - Fiorina, al-Mansour and the World Economic Forum from 2010 on Canada Free Press by J.B. Williams:
http://canadafreepress.com/article/23814
He states in this article:
"Carly Fiorina sat on the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum, which has observer status with the UN Economic and Social Council.
"Agenda 21 and sustainable development (i.e.: global socialism through global governance) Carly sits on the Foundation Board at the mother ship."
"Fiorina also needs to elaborate on her long-term relationship with Dr. Khalid al-Mansour (aka Don Warden, of Black Panther notoriety) Saudi Royal front-man and Obama education financier."
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Fiorina sits on other Boards with al-Mansour, such as the African Leadership Academy. Al-Mansour (aka Don Warden) was the man behind the 1960's Black Panther movement. He advocated for a "black nationalist" president, a view he has held since his relationship with Malcolm X (Malcom X died while speaking at one of al-Mansour’s rallies).
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Also see - Carly Fiorina: Islamic Civilization was "Greatest in the World" - by Tim Brown (Freedom Outpost)
http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/06/carly-fiorina-islamic-civilization-was-greatest-in-the-world/#!
Author's quote: "So, Fiorina has promoted lies from an anti-Christ religion and culture. Is this really the kind of person conservatives, let alone Christians, should be getting behind? If she does this with Islam and history, what do you think her mindset would be when it comes to the Constitution?"
To paraphrase writer Mary Thompson ...
The Hegelian Dialectical Process is a “systems” theory having, no fixed immutable “givens.” The Delphi Technique is related to it and PPBS fits the concept as well.
The Hegelian Dialectic Process precludes a practitioner from holding fixed principles. A thesis (idea) is pitted against an antithesis (opposing idea) to arrive at a synthesis (an idea resembling neither the thesis nor the antithesis, but a “third way.” The “third way” then becomes the “Thesis” and the Process starts all over again. It is never ending. A practitioner of the Dialectical Process can never commit to decisions based on established fact or objective sources or fixed documents. Hegelian Dialectic is a thought process of “shifting sand” never ending sequences of “syntheses.” The Bible has a description for it. “…ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. ”(II Timothy 3:7)
The influence of Hegel’s dialectic in the 21st Century cannot be overstated. The breakdown of the concept of “absolutes” for every foundation of society is being accomplished. In religion, Hegel’s influence is reflected in the Historical Critical method of Biblical study, resulting in the idea of man’s influence over Scripture as opposed to the idea of the writers’ of God’s Word being inspired of God. The present circumstance of organized churches and the incessant stream of ever changing Bible translations reflect such.
The collectivism of Hegel’s ideas has played out and continues to plague individuals and constitutions written to protect the interests of the individual. The 19th Century devotes’ of Hegel’s dialectic were classified as the “Hegelian Right” and the “Hegelian Left.”
As the terminology, whether organizations or individuals, defining themselves as “Conservatives” is no longer definitive, we need to begin to ask and observe….[1] Are organizations and/or individuals traditional constitutional conservatives who accept the constitution as the founders wrote and intended it ? [2] Do they express and defend principles based on objective proven sources? [3] Are they practitioners of the “Hegelian Right”?
But first, self- identified “conservatives” had better bone up on some 19th Century German historical figures and history to discern 21st Century trends still being influenced by them and being manifested by both right and left in the USA today.
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Mary has a degree from Michigan State, her home state. Mary relocated with her husband to California where she became active in Republican Party, then as an early activist opposing innovations in schools which were emanating from Washington resulting from the passage of ESEA. She formed an organization with another mother and political activist to become a research source for information and opposition to the imposition of an all inclusive curricula in the nation’s schools, called Family Life Education as well as PPBS, the management by objectives system used to accomplish the acceptance of FLE. During that effort, party activism was abandoned to concentrate on issues before becoming a small business owner with her husband until the 1990’s.
In 2001 Mary became an individual plaintiff in association with the Silicon Valley Taxpayers Association in a lawsuit against the Santa Clara County Open Space Authority which ultimately resulted in a favorable unanimous decision by the California State Supreme Court in 2008. Following that court decision she was the class representative for negotiations allowing property owners to receive refunds for the illegal OSA assessment.
Mary Thompson?
Well, there ya go.
If you’re gonna toss out dialectics you have go back to the early Greeks.
I have very long suspected that we are all being played under this mechanism. It seems to now permeate every facet of American culture. And because it is constructed by using a never-ending thought evolution process, it is very difficult to keep up with the constant synthesis-re-synthesis operations. You are always seemingly behind “the curve.” This is the principle that governs the philosophy of New World Order thinking - and it explains why the thing has advanced so far in such a short period of time. Unfortunately, most people are blind to its subtle operations.
I did not state that Carly Fiorina is a “commie” - rather I asked why is she using Marxist tactics? I suppose some may answer that question thus: “If the shoe fits ...”
There’s no doubt Marx was heavy into Hegel.
So was pretty much every 19th Century philosopher, especially in Germany.
Dialectics go way back, Plato, Aristotle... If Marx had also taken up Hegel’s view on God and spirit, etc., Marxism wouldn’t be Marxism. Marx took Hegel and others and made it into his own philosophy. It’s not the same as Hegel’s.
Could you expound upon your remarks? I am not much familiar with Mary Thompson, but I found her article fascinating.
How about her using or saying something actually Marxist or communist?
If you got that, fine with me, but the Hegel=Marx is just ignorant.
Huh?
Wow...bye, bye Carly...
That is incredibly insightful writing. I had only a vague idea about the dialectic and its (mis-)applications until now.
Even if I could prove we're being hustled, I don't think anyone would do anything about it
Honestly, if you have never learned of the connection between Heglian Dialetics and Marxist theory, then I think you best not cast stones. There are volumes written on the subject.
This is an easy chance to defend Carley.
CARLY FIORINA, AUGUST 19, 2001: “Last year, I shared HP’s view of an emerging digital Renaissance. I talked about using the technology that is at our disposal to empower individual entrepreneurs, consumers and inventors. I shared a view of fueling, inspiring and connecting the everyday acts of many — and in the process, making the benefits of technology accessible to all.”
Carley Fiorina was exactly right in August 2001. She knew before 90% of Americans that personal computers would give power to citizen journalists (like Drudge) and kill movies, tv, magazines and books.
CARLY FIORINA, AUGUST 19, 2001: “The Hegelian dialectic is about one point of view pitted against its countervailing opposite. And from that contradiction and conflict arises a true synthesis that unifies these different views into a cohesive and often unexpected understanding.”
Carley is doing her best with using the philosophy of GWF Hegel (1770-1830) who wrote Phenomenology of Spirit in 1807. Synthesis does emerge from analysis and Hegel learned this scientific trick from Aristotle. In fact, Hegel was a humble student of Aristotle, just as was Galileo and St. Thomas Aquinas.
Thus, I defend Carley on her correctness in terms of the state of technology in 2001 and Hegel. Plus, she is 100% pro-life.
I blame Carley for taking photos with Don Warden. Warden is a criminal who worked with Bobby Seal in San Francisco.
I hope her pro-life courage influences all other Republican candidates.
Marx used Hagel, but not all Hagel is Marxist. That having been said, too much nerd can make communication difficult and hard to relate to an average person. That may well be applicable to Carly.
Basically her article is a criticism of Delphi which she ties to Hegel dialectics. She might as well tie them all the way back to Aristotelean dialectics.
All I know of her is the article you posted, but my point is Delphi≠Hegel. His philosophy doesn't fit the description she is criticizing. Whatever she is critiquing is some variant. Hegel definitely believed in absolutes and in God, he was a seminary graduate and lifelong non-materialist.
Dialectic is a basic form or method of debate and exploration used in philosophy; different variants have been devised and debated. Marx took a piece of it and spun off his own Marxist philosophy. Not the same as Hegel's.
thanks much for your courtesy in reply.
I'm extremely well aware of it, studied philosophy and history for many years. More than enough to know that the latter drew on the former but they are not the same.
You know - I read this somewhere - the Nazi's used Plato's logic, so Plato was a Nazi. .. :)
Agreed.
so what, Hitler and Nietzsche followed Hegel. Hegel was the foundation of German existentialism. You are a moron and have no concept of philosophical thinking. Please don’t try to pretend you understand philosophy when you don’t have a clue. According to your analysis Marx, Hitler, and Nietzsche all believed the same thing. You can associate Marx with Hegel but you can’t associate Hegel with Marx. I know you must not be able to comprehend the idea but it is none the less true.
No surprise. The elites all use this to control the population... Under a different name: Problem, Reaction, Solution. 0’s posse is a master of this.
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