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To: D-fendr

To paraphrase writer Mary Thompson ...

The Hegelian Dialectical Process is a “systems” theory having, no fixed immutable “givens.” The Delphi Technique is related to it and PPBS fits the concept as well.

The Hegelian Dialectic Process precludes a practitioner from holding fixed principles. A thesis (idea) is pitted against an antithesis (opposing idea) to arrive at a synthesis (an idea resembling neither the thesis nor the antithesis, but a “third way.” The “third way” then becomes the “Thesis” and the Process starts all over again. It is never ending. A practitioner of the Dialectical Process can never commit to decisions based on established fact or objective sources or fixed documents. Hegelian Dialectic is a thought process of “shifting sand” never ending sequences of “syntheses.” The Bible has a description for it. “…ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. ”(II Timothy 3:7)

The influence of Hegel’s dialectic in the 21st Century cannot be overstated. The breakdown of the concept of “absolutes” for every foundation of society is being accomplished. In religion, Hegel’s influence is reflected in the Historical Critical method of Biblical study, resulting in the idea of man’s influence over Scripture as opposed to the idea of the writers’ of God’s Word being inspired of God. The present circumstance of organized churches and the incessant stream of ever changing Bible translations reflect such.

The collectivism of Hegel’s ideas has played out and continues to plague individuals and constitutions written to protect the interests of the individual. The 19th Century devotes’ of Hegel’s dialectic were classified as the “Hegelian Right” and the “Hegelian Left.”

As the terminology, whether organizations or individuals, defining themselves as “Conservatives” is no longer definitive, we need to begin to ask and observe….[1] Are organizations and/or individuals traditional constitutional conservatives who accept the constitution as the founders wrote and intended it ? [2] Do they express and defend principles based on objective proven sources? [3] Are they practitioners of the “Hegelian Right”?

But first, self- identified “conservatives” had better bone up on some 19th Century German historical figures and history to discern 21st Century trends still being influenced by them and being manifested by both right and left in the USA today.

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Mary has a degree from Michigan State, her home state. Mary relocated with her husband to California where she became active in Republican Party, then as an early activist opposing innovations in schools which were emanating from Washington resulting from the passage of ESEA. She formed an organization with another mother and political activist to become a research source for information and opposition to the imposition of an all inclusive curricula in the nation’s schools, called Family Life Education as well as PPBS, the management by objectives system used to accomplish the acceptance of FLE. During that effort, party activism was abandoned to concentrate on issues before becoming a small business owner with her husband until the 1990’s.

In 2001 Mary became an individual plaintiff in association with the Silicon Valley Taxpayers Association in a lawsuit against the Santa Clara County Open Space Authority which ultimately resulted in a favorable unanimous decision by the California State Supreme Court in 2008. Following that court decision she was the class representative for negotiations allowing property owners to receive refunds for the illegal OSA assessment.


21 posted on 09/15/2015 9:24:52 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: WTFOVR

Mary Thompson?

Well, there ya go.

If you’re gonna toss out dialectics you have go back to the early Greeks.


22 posted on 09/15/2015 9:31:41 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: WTFOVR

That is incredibly insightful writing. I had only a vague idea about the dialectic and its (mis-)applications until now.


30 posted on 09/15/2015 9:43:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: WTFOVR; Red Steel; knarf; metmom; Paladin2; onyx; DoughtyOne; Black Agnes
Yes, thank you for this post. Even tonight before the debate, the latest Hegelian assault the Elites are using is trying to put forth the “Thesis” that Jeb Bush is a “conservative” while Donald Trump is a ‘liberal”. In fact, I bet that Hegelian tactic will be part of tomorrow's debate... to try to shift our understanding of what it means to be a “conservative” by pitting Jeb Vs Trump.

And yes, the Establishment Uniparty, One World/New World Order elites have been using Hegelian Dialectic since Hegel first conjured up the theory.

(I use “conjure” without hyperbole.) I've taken a lot of Philosophy myself, and the problem with Hegel and Hegelian theory is that it is an explanation of history as well as a method of manipulating current political events.

The catch is, and the reason to be alarmed that Fiorina was so open about her “using Hegelian theory every day” is because those who use Hegel have no moral compass themselves, but are using it to manipulate others for one reason only: Power.

Let me repeat:

The only reason to employ Hegelian theory to your own situation is to gain power, and moreover, the only people who can use Hegelian theory successfully are those who have absolutely no moral compass whatsoever; those who can lie about their true positions or beliefs with abandon

and therefore those people who do believe in anything are those who can be manipulated by Hegelian theory and are the reason Hegel thought of the theory in the first place... to manipulate people into changing their political views by a series of feints and hoaxes.

Fiorina’s admission is astonishing, because it is Hegelian theory that DEMANDS there be a two party system — the Dems vs the GOP — in order for the Elites to maintain control. This is why Trump and our understanding that there is no left or right (at the top) just the Uniparty Elites who used Hegel's “Divide and conquer” satanic methodology to maintain power.

You can't use Hegelian theory if you actually want something, are passionate about any sort of Judeo Christian ideal of “good” or hold to any belief yourself. All belief is fluid for the elites who believe in the Hegelian will to power.

Hegel is why the Nazis staged the Reichstag's fire; to blame it on “the communists”. Hitler began the Hegalian dialectic by being against the Commies in order to arrest his personal enemies. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657 Which is why so many people believe the Obama race riots are staged, and much of the turmoil in unrest in this country are paid for by the Elites to start trouble. When Trump was last in L.A., George Soros' paid La Raza types picketed him. This is Soros' using Hegelian theory. But Hitler and all the elites always go after and those with actual belief, the Jews and Christians. . But it was a Uniparty even in Hilter's day, much to the chagrin of the hard left in the US and around the world when Stalin signed his pact with Der Fuhrer. It is all a lie. The only enemy that is real are believing Jews and Christians... all of the other modes of political belief are fluid and open to change.

Our Uniparty elites, now that Fiorina has been outed, need to destroy Judeo Christianity by whatever means possible and have been doing so for years with Hegel's dialectic.

I recall when I was in school studying this, I had a hard time getting my mind around Hegel's main theory — that nothing is real, there is no God, and it is all about manipulating what people believe through thesis antithesis. The freak of a professor I had simply could not explain Hegel to someone who held to actual faith; because you really have to be immoral and slightly insane not to acknowledge the Creator in an obviously created universe.

If this is true about Fiorina, she is really bad news, as in UN NWO weirdo cult whatever those "Lucent Trust" people who founded the UN believe. May the Lord remind her it is all garbage and will only destroy her soul in the endgame.

61 posted on 09/16/2015 1:40:36 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: WTFOVR

Just read Fiorina’s speech...and wow... Obama just about gave that same speech a few years ago re: broadband.

What is up with our Elite overlords? Fiorina used just about every Illuminist buzzword imaginable.

She is NOT a conservative. Nor an outsider. The AT&T spying by the Bush administration revealed in 2004 show what a sham all this tech B.S. was. They just want intrusive tech TO SPY ON US, it’s a power grab.

Carly we hardly know ye, and it’s scary Carly. Will be praying for you.


63 posted on 09/16/2015 2:22:44 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: WTFOVR
Thesis --> Antithesis --> Synthesis

According to Hegel, this process describes all of human History, which is Hegel's "God" becoming fully aware of Himself.

The theory is self refuting, since according to the theory, Hegel's own idea of thesis/antithesis/synthesis must be just another idea in human history subject to the Hegelian dialectic, to be eventually dissolved into a greater synthesis. So Thesis/Antithesis/Synthesis can't be an absolute truth.

Hegel's nefarious, crackpot theory is best left on the ash heap of history.

71 posted on 09/16/2015 8:36:29 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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