Posted on 05/27/2015 12:00:44 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
Sen. Rand Paul (R) of Kentucky, who is a candidate for his party's 2016 presidential nomination, has created a national brand as a man unafraid of challenging party orthodoxy.
That was on display Wednesday when Senator Paul credited the rise of the Islamic State terrorist group to hawks within his own party.
"ISIS exists and grew stronger because of the hawks in our party who gave arms indiscriminately, and most of those arms were snatched up by ISIS," Paul said in an interview with MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough that aired Wednesday on “Morning Joe.” "They’ve created these people."
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Yeah, 1400 year old “pure muslims” were created by American Imperialism. You sir, are a total dumb bass!
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I blame people like Mccain were advocated arming “moderate” rebels in Libya and Syria for the formation/strengthening of ISIS. So some in GOP get the blame, but majority of the fault lie with Obama
Ping!
I could believe McCain would be involved. He would probably sell his own mother if the price was right. A look at his donations history will clear up any misconception about whether hw is bought and paid for by military contractors....
Rand Paul = Forrest Gump
Poor Rand has seen his 15 minutes come and go. Only thing he can now do is wish libertarian and like GrandDad said, “wish in one hand, poop in the other and see which fills up the fastest”.
ISIS/ISIL/WHAEVER was created when Ophonybama ordered the US military to abandon the field of battle.
Nature does, after all, abhor a vacuum.
Senator Paul’s foreign policy beliefs are dangerous, and he has no business being anywhere near the Executive Department, in any position.
Stay in the Senate, Senator, and speak to the Constitution and the economy — you don’t know Foreign Policy and should therefore keep you mouth shut, lest you be thought a fool!
The thing about Paul isn’t that he just attacks conservatism, but that he gives the left great sound bites to use against us.
The left will be quoting this defense of Obama’s incompetence, for many years to come.
“Created ISIS”?
Eliminating Saddam Hussein lifted the lid on Pandora’s box, but at most it let out what is festering beneath the surface of most Islamic states.
President Obama, Secretary Clinton, and Congress are all responsible for the foreign policy mess. We did it to Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and the Ukraine because the Overlords in both parties wanted to play kingmaker and install the groups they thought they could control. AlQaida/ISIS/ISIL and Russia had other ideas.
They are following the same path in this country with the Black Marxists and Aztlan groups.
Obama’s foreign policy weakness encourages the Red Dragon to spread it’s influence in the Far East. Hopefully he’ll be ex-President before China-Japan-Taiwan start shooting at each other.
The GOP is not commander in chief.
McCain and Graham have supported the president on ISIS, but thats it. ISIS was a Turk/Obama/Qatar project at least until they became a PR problem.
Rand's version of history is wrong. If he knows better he is a liar. If he doesn't he's stupid.
They “created” ISIS? Well, actually, no they didn’t. ISIS has existed since at least 2004-5-6 and through many changes in leadership, from strong pre-2003 Islamist terrorists to now it appears to be an Islamist appearing and functioning terrorist outfit actually led and controlled by former Saddam loyalists, who may only be using ultra fundamentalist Islamist behavior for its ability to attract recruits and internally for the internal terror with which it keeps control.
Yes, I would agree with Paul if what he was saying was only that support for the “Syrian opposition” carried no ability for U.S. people to adequately vet who was getting that support, and into that verification hole fell ISIS (and many others), taking advantage not for “opposition to Assad”, just for itself. But “created ISIS”? No.
However, if Rand was saying that the “Syrian opposition” as part of a Saudi, Gulf State, Turkey, U.S. and other western supported regime change agenda and it made a “Syrian situation” worse than Assad alone was, by how it led to the security destabilization of Syria and provided fertile ground for all sorts of Islamist radicals to exploit, and recruit & grow. I’d agree with that as well. But “create” ISIS? No.
ISIS, or the seeds of what was to become ISIS, were planted long ago by the Muslim Brotherhood, and al-Qaeda was only part of the first crop of the harvest. The flowering of the “Arab Spring”, and the toppling of regimes in Libya, Egypt, and the attempted toppling of the regime in Syria, all nurtured and cultivated the birth and growth of ISIS, and the contemplation that a new Islamic Caliphate to rival the former Ottoman Empire could arise showed promise of a glorious culmination of the plan.
In the Greek legends of the Phoenician prince Cadmus, who killed the sacred dragon that guarded the spring of Ares, and in Jason’s quest for the Golden Fleece, the dragons are real and breathe fire. Dragon’s teeth, once planted, would grow into fully armed warriors.
Today we face that harvest.
There are a few in the GOP who have been involved with Obama that bear some responsibility. Not for creating ISIS but for helping (hopefully inadvertently) arming them. But claiming that anyone in the GOP created ISIS is pure hard left pandering.
Bobby Jindal is correct.
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists][Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]
Alexander Prokhanov... said ISIS is a byproduct of US policies in the Middle East. "ISIS is a tool at the hands of the United States. They tell the Europeans that if we (the Americans) do not intervene, ISIS will cause you harm," he said. In fact, however, he added, Iran and Russia are the main targets of ISIS terror. "They launched their first terror attack against us just a few days back in Chechnya," he said, stressing that the ISIS ideology has got nothing to do with the Islam practiced in Iran...Sound familiar? US is the victim, blame the victim; USSR sponsored and trained terrorists throughout the world, Russia continues its support, whines about being attacked in self-defense in areas it has invaded and occupied; ISIS nothing to do with Islam; Iran a blameless victim?
Rand Paul (D) : )
I agree.
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