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Warning: A Vote for Jeb (or Christie or Romney or Rubio, etc.) is a vote for Hillary
Maceman

Posted on 01/02/2015 7:30:06 AM PST by Maceman

OK. So all the "pragmatic" conservatives who bit the bullet and voted for RINOs once again in November 2014 got their reward with the Republican votes for Obama and his trillion-dollar budget increase for 2015 in the lame duck session.

These are the same people who scolded us about risking another 2 years of Harry Reid and a return of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker if we stayed home on election day.

Well, I think reality is that anyone who votes for a RINO in the 2016 primaries, or in the general election, is voting for Hillary (or Warren or whomever the Democrats choose). Plain and simple.

We conservatives need to spend the next two years pushing one simple message: If the GOPe and their moderate enablers select a "moderate" and/or pro-amnesty candidate in the 2016 primaries -- then it is they, and NOT WE, who are guaranteeing a Democrat presidential victory come November 2016.

Why? Because every self-respecting conservative will refuse to vote for a RINO presidential candidate in 2016, either in the primary or the general election.

All conservatives must pledge early and often to boycott a RINO GOP candidate.

We need to spend the next two years getting that message out -- and convincing the GOPe that we are serious about this.

We need the big donors to understand that if they put their money behind moderate GOPe type candidates, they might just as well put all their money in a big pile, douse it with gasoline and light it on fire.

If they don't heed our warning, and the primary process yields a Bush, or a Christie, or a Huckabee or a Rubio (or any other pro-amnesty candidate), the GOPe need to be made to recognize that they and their "pragmatic" RINO-enabling voters have no one to blame themselves.

And any Freeper who gives me any grief about not voting for the RINO in 2016 (those would be the ones who gave me grief about warning against voting for RINOs in 2014) can just go pound sand.

Conservatives need to be in the RINO faces starting NOW about this, so there will be no mistake. We can't afford to wait until the primaries have run their course and then start complaining after the fact.

We have almost two years to drive that message into their RINO skulls, and to shout it from the rooftops, so that there will be no doubt, and no misunderstanding, about what a conservative boycott will do to the Republican election effort.

We need to DARE the GOPe to defy us on this, knowing that their betrayal will result in a certain conservative boycott, a Democrat president and all the congressional coat-tail-hangers-on that she or he will bring along.

Don't blame us for staying home. Blame yourselves for forcing us to walk away from the Republican Party at the ballot box.

Or maybe we can all just vote for the RINOs in 2016 this one last time so we don't end up with President Hillary or Warren or Sanders, and then we'll get serious in 2018.



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1 posted on 01/02/2015 7:30:06 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Warning: A Vote for Jeb (or Christie or Romney or Rubio, etc.) is a vote for Hillary

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Blah, blah, blah.

Someone (me, maybe) will counter that by saying NOT VOTING for Jeb (or Christie or Romney or Rubio, etc.) is a vote for Hillary.


2 posted on 01/02/2015 7:35:29 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Maceman

Absolutely.

As for Jeb, I’ll vote third party in the general if he is nominated. Even Christie and Romney look good next to him.


3 posted on 01/02/2015 7:36:01 AM PST by ZULU (Quo usque tandem abutere Obama patientia nostra?)
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To: Maceman
So all the "pragmatic" conservatives who bit the bullet and voted for RINOs once again in November 2014 got their reward with the Republican votes for Obama

Lie #1. In the general election, conservatives stayed home, they didn't vote for Obama. Try to at least start your thread with a smidgeon of integrity.

4 posted on 01/02/2015 7:36:17 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Maceman

If a RINO is the gop candidate, I will double the effectiveness of my vote, hold my nose and vote for the dim.

Now, with the recent Boehner/McConnell betrayals, is the time for the Tea Party to fight back HARD!

Burn the gop to the ground, it is the party of Reagan no longer. Allow something productive to grow from the ashes.


5 posted on 01/02/2015 7:36:50 AM PST by GilesB
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To: Maceman
Well, I think reality is that anyone who votes for a RINO in the 2016 primaries, or in the general election, is voting for Hillary (or Warren or whomever the Democrats choose). Plain and simple.

Lie #2. If you vote for a republican in the general election, it is not a vote for the democratic candidate.

6 posted on 01/02/2015 7:38:19 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Go Gordon

Uuuummm - the last time Obama was on the ballot was 2012.

What the writer meant was the RINOs in congress voting to support Obama’s agenda.


7 posted on 01/02/2015 7:38:57 AM PST by GilesB
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To: GilesB

RINO’s (95 percent of GOP Congress) should be double opposed in primaries and general elections even if its just having a write-in because election laws are written by the big parties against third parties.....


8 posted on 01/02/2015 7:39:23 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Blah, blah, blah. Someone (me, maybe) will counter that by saying NOT VOTING for Jeb (or Christie or Romney or Rubio, etc.) is a vote for Hillary.

Yes. By all means say that. Make sure the GOPe hears you loud and clear, so that they won't have even the slightest trepidation about ignoring or even attacking conservatives.

I think we need to coin a name for people like you: "Bergdahls."

9 posted on 01/02/2015 7:40:42 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Like it stopped the folks for voting for that idiot Ron Paul.


10 posted on 01/02/2015 7:40:50 AM PST by elder5
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To: Maceman

I’m with you.


11 posted on 01/02/2015 7:41:04 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Go Gordon
Lie #1. In the general election, conservatives stayed home, they didn't vote for Obama. Try to at least start your thread with a smidgeon of integrity.

Maybe you need to reread what I said. I think you missed the point, because you were so eager to make an accusation that you leaped before you looked.

12 posted on 01/02/2015 7:42:08 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Go Gordon

Please explain the difference between a Hillary presidency and a “please don’t hate me, I’m really pretty much like Hillary” presidency.

I will not only NOT vote for a RINO in any election, I will vote for the dim, if the gop puts up a RINO. If the gop won’t respect its conservative base, then it is worthless and needs to be destroyed. Since the 2014 election, the gop is proving itself pretty much worthless....


13 posted on 01/02/2015 7:42:28 AM PST by GilesB
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Why? Because every self-respecting conservative will refuse to vote for a RINO presidential candidate in 2016, either in the primary or the general election

Although I agree with the rest of your post regarding getting a conservative elected in the primaries, this is still not true. After getting Obama twice by not voting for the GOPe candidate, conservatives should have learned their lesson and regardless of who the republican candidate is, every conservative needs to get behind whoever wins the nomination, even if they are not the second coming of Ronald Reagan.

14 posted on 01/02/2015 7:42:45 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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Conservatives care to their core for our republic.

The GOPE couldn't care less.

The GOPE wing of the Uniparty is quite ambivalent if the Beast or Lying Bull wins in 2016. Their perks, honors and future lobbying gigs will remain intact.

15 posted on 01/02/2015 7:44:28 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Maceman

FoxNews had one of their polster/commentators on this morning. He said that, if Jeb doesn’t run, Hillary won’t; and if Hillary doesn’t run, Jeb won’t.

He tried to say that they are basically the same, complement each other, and need each other.

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Not sure what he was trying to say, but even the host was sort of shaking her head at that.


16 posted on 01/02/2015 7:45:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: GilesB

“If a RINO is the gop candidate, I will double the effectiveness of my vote, hold my nose and vote for the dim.”

“Now, with the recent Boehner/McConnell betrayals, is the time for the Tea Party to fight back HARD!”

“Burn the gop to the ground, it is the party of Reagan no longer. Allow something productive to grow from the ashes.”

I’m with you.


17 posted on 01/02/2015 7:47:02 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Go Gordon
every conservative needs to get behind whoever wins the nomination, even if they are not the second coming of Ronald Reagan.

As long as the GOPe thinks conservatives will do that, there will never be another conservative candidate again.

How many more illegal aliens, EPA power grabs, nationalized education programs and trillion dollar spending sprees do you think our nation can survive?

18 posted on 01/02/2015 7:47:28 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Maceman

And what can we call a person like you who starts off saying DON’T vote for Jeb, yet concludes OK, lets go ahead and vote for Jeb.

Are you still hungover from New Years?


19 posted on 01/02/2015 7:52:16 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
And what can we call a person like you who starts off saying DON’T vote for Jeb, yet concludes OK, lets go ahead and vote for Jeb. Are you still hungover from New Years?

Sorry. I didn't think I'd need to add a "/s" to make clear that I was being sarcastic in that last paragraph.

20 posted on 01/02/2015 7:54:58 AM PST by Maceman
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