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Turkish minister: Christianity no longer a religion
Jihadwatch.org ^ | September 3, 2014 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 09/03/2014 2:58:54 PM PDT by Biggirl

“There are 2.5 billion Christians in the world,” Bayraktar said. “Christianity is no longer a religion. It’s a culture now. But that is not what a religion is like. A religion teaches; it is a form of life that gives one peace and happiness. That is what they want to turn [Islam] into as well.” In other words, he is telling his audience to be on guard against those who try to water down, or should we say moderate, the teachings of Islam.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristianity; bayraktar; christianculture; christianity; christians; cult; islam; islamculture; turkey
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1 posted on 09/03/2014 2:58:54 PM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Abysmal ignorance.


2 posted on 09/03/2014 3:02:30 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan

I have to say, he has a point. Out of the 2.5 billion who self-identify as Christians, a large number can’t be serious about their faith, or the world would look much different than it does. No, many of those people are “Christians” because their parents and grandparents were “Christians”, and they probably put less thought into that choice than they do what brand of car they drive or what kind of music they listen to.


3 posted on 09/03/2014 3:05:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Biggirl

Religion is man’s attempt to reach God. Christianity is God’s attempt to reach man. Islam is a religion.


4 posted on 09/03/2014 3:07:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Biggirl
A religion teaches; it is a form of life that gives one peace and happiness.

Like islam?
5 posted on 09/03/2014 3:07:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Biggirl

Probably half of the “mainline” Protestant ministers in the US agree with him.


6 posted on 09/03/2014 3:11:09 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Biggirl

Someone failed both history and theology 101...


7 posted on 09/03/2014 3:14:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Biggirl

All through its framed in almost Jihadist terms, there is some truth. I’d say a very sizable minority of Christians on earth (maybe 30-40%) do not live the faith at all. Its a cultural identity, and those are the people leaving the church in record numbers.


8 posted on 09/03/2014 3:14:57 PM PDT by Viennacon (Ir)
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To: Biggirl

This guy is a threat to the West.


9 posted on 09/03/2014 3:15:05 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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At least Christians do not threaten violence.


10 posted on 09/03/2014 3:15:32 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Viennacon

Yet when Christmas or Easter comes around, or there is a “life” event like a wedding or a furneral, even the least observing show up to church. Go figure.


11 posted on 09/03/2014 3:17:57 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That is excellent.


12 posted on 09/03/2014 3:18:16 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Islam is an anti-religion. There is nothing else in the world that so firmly rejects man’s attempts to find God: Islam hates reason, human love and charity, art and music. Those are the contact points that Islam wants to extinguish.


13 posted on 09/03/2014 3:18:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: Biggirl

Glad he did it. It gives an opportunity to western Governments to declare that it is Islam that is not a religion consistent with our understanding of a religion, but rather a criminal enterprise which stands outside the protections afforded to religious practice, belief, and thought.

If someone whines about it, ask them if we should allow murderous religions like Thugee or whatever grotesque religion the Aztecs practiced.


14 posted on 09/03/2014 3:18:53 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Biggirl

Glad he did it. It gives an opportunity to western Governments to declare that it is Islam that is not a religion consistent with our understanding of a religion, but rather a criminal enterprise which stands outside the protections afforded to religious practice, belief, and thought.

If someone whines about it, ask them if we should allow murderous religions like Thugee or whatever grotesque religion the Aztecs practiced.


15 posted on 09/03/2014 3:22:45 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Biggirl

and Islam is not a religion ; it is a cult , a cult of death , that ,loves , promotes and encourages death . A cult that commits murder and advocates , or turns a blind eye to murder . The murder of defenseless innocents , as well as all non-believers . It is an invasive cult , which insinuates itself in non-native environs and seeks to take over by unrestricted population growth within those invaded societies which it then seeks to subvert to it’s own agendas as it majority seeking population explodes . It is a non-adaptive utterly intolerant cult , which appears to show tolerance only when , in it’s early stages , it’s population of cult adherents is too low to come out of the closet with it’s real intentions . Once majority-like numbers are reached , it’s character and approach within any given society changes and becomes much more aggressive and super intolerant , very quickly .
These are among the reasons why this cult , this perversion of anything that has ever been called ‘religion’ should be banned from any civilized country . It’s practices and it’s so-called ‘places of worship’ should be dismantled and no provision given to its practices what-so-ever . Insistence by those cultists unwilling to meet the demands of this enlightened thinking , on the behalf of societies finally trying to throw off this invasive parasite at last , should be dealt with by the permanent deportation , back the country of ancestral origin of the same . Conversions and inter-marriage should be banned . There should be no exceptions . Sounds draconian ? Research the laws , rules and conditions for any & all attempting to visit , much less reside in or around Mecca in Saudi Arabia . Nothing shocking in what I suggest ; it is already completely codified and practiced within Islam .
They prey upon the ‘tolerance’ of the West . We tolerate the intolerable . It has to end ....soon


16 posted on 09/03/2014 3:24:30 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Biggirl

> Yet when Christmas or Easter comes around, or there is a “life” event like a wedding or a furneral, even the least observing show up to church. Go figure.

For women It’s “show off my new dress (or outfit) day” (or chillun’s outfits). For kids, it’s another free candy day


17 posted on 09/03/2014 3:24:52 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Islam: a phony religion based upon a false prophet and a phony book. Lose, lose, lose, and the entire world has been losing since the seventh century.


18 posted on 09/03/2014 3:25:00 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Biggirl

Even if we have people claiming to be Christian who don’t practice Christianity, they still have their values and thinking shaped by Christian culture. Islam also produces culture. Just look at Islamic nations, at the treatment of women, the treatment of non Muslims, at the strife between different sects of Muslims, at the hatred of everything and everyone not Muslim, at the divisions of classes, the poverty, the elitism, the radicalism, terrorism, and the brainwashing. There isn’t a single nation in the world that is better off because of Islam. Muslims are suffocated with culture.

Actually this guy’s statement is about as idiotic as it gets.


19 posted on 09/03/2014 3:28:33 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Biggirl

there they admit there is no moderate islam which means the terrorists are islam.


20 posted on 09/03/2014 3:29:35 PM PDT by RginTN
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