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New York federal judge rules NSA phone surveillance is legal
nbcnews.com ^ | December 27, 2013 | Hasani Gittens

Posted on 12/27/2013 9:25:40 AM PST by John W

A federal judge in New York has ruled that the National Security Agency's massive collection of American citizens' telephone records is both legal and useful.

U.S. District Judge William Pauley wrote in his opinion issued Friday that the program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaeda's terror network.

Pauley raised the specter of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and how the phone data-collection system could have helped investigators connect the dots before the attacks occurred.

Pauley's decision appears to conflict with a ruling earlier this month by U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, who granted a preliminary injunction against the collecting of phone records of two men who had challenged the program.

He said that the program likely violates the U.S. Constitution's ban on unreasonable search.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; clintonappointee; constitution; janepauley; newyork; nsa; obamunism; policestate; richardleon; rop; stasi; tyranny; waronterror; williampauley; wiretapping; yeswescan
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To: John W

Since “U.S. District Judge William Pauley” has no issues with the NSA getting all available information on all Americans, SOMEONE needs to publish all of the good judge’s particulars.

Date of Birth (Mother & Father)
Schools attended - Starting with kindergarden
All college transcripts
All work experience
All political activity (Voter Registration information)
Current Address and family information

etc.


61 posted on 12/27/2013 11:16:39 AM PST by DanZ
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To: castlegreyskull; Rapscallion

I’m assuming Rapscallion made a mistake. After reading many of his posts elsewhere on FR I have to think it’s a typo. If not I surely would like the reasoning behind “Good decision.”


62 posted on 12/27/2013 11:18:39 AM PST by Amigo04
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To: John W

Yeah our Constitution is gone...

But we have Obama. :)


63 posted on 12/27/2013 11:20:32 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: John W

It will go to the SCOTUS where roberts will vote however his blackmailer tells him to vote.


64 posted on 12/27/2013 11:23:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: John W

So. A little bit of unconstitutional spying on American citizens is still verboten but it’s just fine with this brilliant judge if the regime violates every American ‘s fundamental. rights all at once? Sort of like judicially endorsing gang rapes.


65 posted on 12/27/2013 11:27:30 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Amigo04

Yeah, I read them too. I got the same idea about him as well. I know I made a few mistakes too, that convey nearly the opposite message I wanted to make.


66 posted on 12/27/2013 11:30:20 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Vaquero
And with the current embrace of Islam by this administration, can you even trust they would preempt an event for fear of being seen as Islamaphobic? The current system is rooted in the paranoia possessed by the ruling elite (think Nan Pelosi with that gavel in hand) being created under Obama, and that paranoia is insatiable. The system is designed for the control of the law abiding population. It's what power obsessed tyrants have done in history past. And it is a terrible thing to be witnessing in this nation.
67 posted on 12/27/2013 11:31:20 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Vaquero

“what should have happened was that there should have been a concerted effort to block non citizens from Islamic countries from entering and/or giving them citizenship. They are a stealth bunch who would lie to their own mothers to get in and eventually gain citizenship. nothing in our constitution says we have to let anyone in as citizens. the protections are there for those already citizens”

I have had the same idea. Of course, I wouldn’t have gone about it blatantly (b/c of friction it might cause with other nations in the world. But require so much red tape and screening that the process takes years and years.


68 posted on 12/27/2013 11:36:15 AM PST by Augustinian monk ("BUSHES WITHOUT BORDERS")
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To: basil

“This judge looks like he escaped from the funny farm.”

There is a certain resemblance to Taber (Christopher Lloyd), don’t you think?


69 posted on 12/27/2013 11:37:54 AM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: John W

Of course it’s illegal. It is a textbook example of an illegal search and thus violates one of the most important protections of the U.S. Constitution.


70 posted on 12/27/2013 11:43:34 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: John W

Buffoons can rule ANYTHING. What makes this leftist “judge” think the NSA program has any relationship to the battle with Al-Qaeda? Rather than Barack Al-Obama’s desire to CONTROL all Americans?


71 posted on 12/27/2013 11:48:47 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Rapscallion

it’s good HUH,


72 posted on 12/27/2013 11:50:10 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: JediJones

“If we killed all Muslims found in the country that might prevent a terrorist attack too. Does that make it legal?”

Good point! How about if we compromise and DEPORT them all?


73 posted on 12/27/2013 11:50:28 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: NormsRevenge

Yea another judge looking to move up by giving decisions his socialist masters want


74 posted on 12/27/2013 11:51:09 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: plain talk

“rules NSA phone surveillance is legal, plain talk wrote:
U.S. District Judge William Pauley wrote in his opinion issued Friday that the program “represents the government’s counter-punch” to eliminate al-Qaeda’s terror network.
Laudable goal but completely irrelevant here. The issue is how does the policy jive or not with the Constitution.”

Agreed!


75 posted on 12/27/2013 11:51:29 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Labyrinthos
Enforcing our immigration laws would have also worked without the need to violate our right to privacy.

Bingo!!! You win the new Corvette.

76 posted on 12/27/2013 11:51:39 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: DeWalt

just said the same, we have judges which give decisions not based on laws but base them on whether they can move up to a higher court.


77 posted on 12/27/2013 11:52:33 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: longtermmemmory

and the problem is that we have a family who moved down here from NY state and they are nothing but freeloaders on welfare, claim disability, call the cops if anyone looks at them while he walks about in his underpants showing his fat boobs off and then plays the race card.

Sadly for every decent NY person moving out there are also NY scum bags looking to take their so called freebies in their new states


78 posted on 12/27/2013 11:55:11 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: plain talk
The issue is how does the policy jive or not with the Constitution

That's only if the Constitution is a living, breathing, rappin' document ....

79 posted on 12/27/2013 12:03:09 PM PST by mikrofon (Happy New Year 2014 ;)
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To: John W

Well hell, it is New York after all.


80 posted on 12/27/2013 12:26:19 PM PST by servantboy777
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