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4 Simple Questions
Morning's Email | 6/6/2012 | Unknown

Posted on 06/06/2013 10:42:42 AM PDT by IbJensen

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth.

How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the " British East Africa Protectorate". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.

How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx)

4. Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media? Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may eed some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936-if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!!!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes (still qualifies as a "liar")?


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To: 0.E.O

I get so damn much of it.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 11:40:23 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Scoutmaster

The term ‘Halfrican’ applies to Bozo.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 11:41:50 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

How the media can ignore questions like this with a straight face is just mind-boggling.


23 posted on 06/06/2013 12:00:19 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: IbJensen

Drop the last question. Use this re-format:

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961 lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father, and that Obama’s father was born in “ Kenya , East Africa”. Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

The hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx


24 posted on 06/06/2013 12:12:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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I break my self-imposed silence to relate what I sent privately to Mr. IbJensen and then the nice reply he sent to me. First my message to him:
Too bad you post this disinformation. It calls into question EVERYTHING you post.

Kenya very definitely existed in 1961. Look for images of Kenya Postage Stamps. Some have King George VI’s picture on them. (He died in 1952, and then the Brits switched the royal image on their stamps to that of his daughter, Queen Elizabeth.)

The name “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” appears on the birth certificates of the Nordyke twins born the same week as Obama supposedly was.

The only reason for posting such information is to discredit honest and correct information concerning Obama’s birth certificate.

WHY DO YOU DO THIS? Is it out of ignorance. Or are you a paid Obot?

And here's his reply:
I certainly wouldn’t want to discredit our illustrious president. Making him look bad is easy. There is nothing honest and correct about this insult to America.

You’d better crawl back into your White House basement office and continue reading Conservative internet postings.

While you’re at it you can just go to hell!

I report. You decide.

ML/NJ

25 posted on 06/06/2013 12:28:45 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: IbJensen

IbJensen:

Welcome aboard.

I have a challenge for you:

Pose the question(s) to your friends, neighbors, market cashiers, congregation, et al.

Get back to us on that.


26 posted on 06/06/2013 12:29:37 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: IbJensen
The year is 2050: Professor Right history class. Students, The 2008 presidential elections were the largest hoax, the largest crime in the history of American politics, which elected a tyrant, by voter fraud and falsified documents, becoming America's first black POTUS and the hoax continued for the 2012 elections also. This is the main reason we wear turban's and burqua’s and many of our children are raped. NOTE: This professor was beheaded the next day.

Professor Left. Students, in 2008 we defeated America and implemented sharia law and we now worship the “one.” He is now 89 years old and still the POTAUS (president of the arab united states, in which there are only 20 left because the "one" had to nuke the others).

27 posted on 06/06/2013 12:30:52 PM PDT by goinguplive
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To: ml/nj

Has anyone ever satisfactorily explained the ‘African’ designation in the ‘race’ category? Wdn’t it (back in ‘61) more likely have been Negro? ‘African’ isn’t a race.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 12:44:38 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: IbJensen
Future generations will scratch their heads in wonderment

No, future generations will only be reading history books that have been sanitized by government revisionists. O'Dummy is an affirmative action, entitlement minded, socialist/liberal/dimoRAT and, as such is, and forever will be, untouchable.

It'll be like that school in LA where the DOJ has forbidden them from expelling the troublemakers. The troublemakers, you see, are black. And expelling them is racist, since the only ones getting expelled, are black.

This country is so screwed. Without some major upheaval/civil war, we'll be like messyco in three generations.

29 posted on 06/06/2013 12:48:19 PM PDT by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: IbJensen
” Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “ British East Africa Protectorate”.”

That is simply false. Even the Wikipedia article cited as evidence says otherwise. This whole “email” smells like a false flag operation.

30 posted on 06/06/2013 12:53:42 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

How do you explain that the document , as a whole, is a forgery?


31 posted on 06/06/2013 3:14:11 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Fantasywriter
Has anyone ever satisfactorily explained the ‘African’ designation in the ‘race’ category? Wdn’t it (back in ‘61) more likely have been Negro? ‘African’ isn’t a race.

I can guarantee you that the designation on US birth certificates of the time, was "Negro". It's printed on my, and my six siblings birth certificates - the last one being produced in 1963.

32 posted on 06/06/2013 3:29:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: IbJensen
While it's true that Kenya didn't exist an an independent country until 1963, the name "Kenya" was commonly used prior to this date, officially as the "Colony and Protectorate of Kenya", as seen on this 1957document:


33 posted on 06/06/2013 3:40:34 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Windflier

Thank you so much for that info. That wd have been my assumption too. Plus, you’d think if anyone else from that era had ‘African’ on their BC, they’d have stepped forward by now. The effort to authenticate Obama is vast. The desire to make ‘birthers’ look stupid, however, is even greater. So one wd think if ‘African’ were a sometimes-used designation, they’d have put up evidence to that effect by now.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 3:45:02 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
...you’d think if anyone else from that era had ‘African’ on their BC, they’d have stepped forward by now.

I remember early on, someone put up such a challenge. No one ever came forward with a birth certificate with "African" in the 'race' blank.

Obama is an illegitimate fraud. The overwhelming body of evidence, both direct and circumstantial, proves it beyond a shadow of doubt.

35 posted on 06/06/2013 3:50:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Agree w everything you said!

Here’s something else along the same lines. Obama was a community organizer, right? So where are all the people he helped? Where are the interviews w people from the ‘community’ who talk about what a positive force Obama was in their area?

For that matter, where is one single person from his past who extols what a friendly, helpful person Obama was? You’d think a person from his college days, or from the classes he taught, etc., wd have turned up by now to talk about all the nice things Obama did. The time he helped explain a homework assignment. The extra hours he put in preparing his law students for their exam. Just anything to illustrate that at any point in his entire life he went an extra mile to be kind to someone who needed help.

There is nothing. Not one person has ever emerged w such a story. Worse, the majority of voters either didn’t even notice or don’t care. Oh well.


36 posted on 06/06/2013 4:09:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Obama was a community organizer, right? So where are all the people he helped? Where are the interviews w people from the ‘community’ who talk about what a positive force Obama was in their area?

As many have said, we call him 'Zero' because he's a cipher. An enigma. A phantom. A myth.

No one remembers him well enough to comment favorably, because he never left a wake in life. Never left an impression. Never touched anyone's life in a memorable way. He passed like a shadow - gone like a puff of smoke on the wind.

He was a blank canvas on which the deep left could paint the image of the perfect candidate. The man is a complete fabrication.

37 posted on 06/06/2013 4:29:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: IbJensen
I don't believe the birth certificate is legitimate, either but Barack's race isn't listed at all. His father's is listed as "African", not "African-American".

Also, his father's birthplace: "Kenya, East Africa", is accurate for the time. Kenya did not exist as a country in 1961, but it was a recognized region within East Africa.

The name of the hospital is very interesting, though.

Keep up the good fight, just be sure your facts are correct. I'm going by this as my reference.

38 posted on 06/06/2013 4:38:51 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: Windflier

Well said.


39 posted on 06/06/2013 4:44:13 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: upcountryhorseman

I’m not saying that the (purported) B.C. isn’t fake. I’m saying that using demonstrably false statements to make the case is counter-productive. So counter-productive, in fact, that it makes me wonder if the “email” weren’t created to discredit (so-called) “birthers”.


40 posted on 06/06/2013 5:29:00 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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