Posted on 05/22/2013 10:41:45 AM PDT by Eurotwit
A man reported to be a serving soldier is dead and two people have been shot in Woolwich, south east London, after what Sky sources understand is being treated as a terrorist attack. Downing Street has called a meeting of the Government's Cobra emergency committee after the incident in John Wilson Street, which David Cameron described as "truly shocking". Sky sources understand that senior police officers believe the killing was likely to be a politically-motivated Islamist terrorist attack. Dozens of weapons - including a number of knives - and pools of blood could be seen on the ground, where a man wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt is said to have been attacked by two men.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
Buzzfeed has a good report on this with photos and video, eyewitness accounts, including one from Twitter:
Boya Dee@BOYADEE
The two black bredas run this white guy over over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/samjparker/eyewitness-reports-man-with-head-chopped-off-in-violent-atta
Next step will be this: British Police everywhere will start posting guards on Mosques and Islamic Centers to protect against the “Backlash against Muslims” (which somehow never materializes). Also, we can expect British Police to start rounding up members of the EDL immediately! The British Parliament will have an emergency session and demand that British Foreign Minister be sacked immediately for the failed British foreign policy that resulted in the anger of the Muslim attacker. Poor things. What are they SUPPOSED to do other then hack British soldiers to death. I’m sure Muslims throughout Europe and the United States can (and will) claim great victim status after this attack. “Never let a good terror attack go to waste.” A motto CAIR could (and does) live by.
Really? The British Press is reporting it as a terror attack. A term that the US press somehow managed to eschew when more than a dozen service members were killed at fort hood by a gun weilding moslem, who was screamin allah akhbar... the US Press somehow mananged to avoid the term even when two US recruiters were shot dead
Sorry, but a soldier has been killed by the enemy and all you can say is ‘UK is pussyfied’? I think that’s a disgrace. At the least a condolence to the bereaved.
Time to put the teeth back in the bulldog.
‘Isn’t some variation of “sharia law” currently being practiced in at least part of the UK’...
No. Sharia Law is not practiced in the UK, it is not applicable in a UK court of law, it is not a reason or excuse to do the foul and depraved things these bods can and do, do.
English and British Law is based on Common Law. At no point in any schools, courts, books, or papers can Sharia Law be invoked, applied, announced or otherwise as an alternative to UK laws.
What the dregs get up to in their own houses is another matter but don’t be lazy in thinking its accepted in mainstream British society. Which as has been said, makes up 96% of us.
Clear enough?
Your response seems to suggest that you're a Brit and if that's the case you'd almost certainly know something about Britain's courts.But regardless of you nationality I,a Yank,am confused by this story.
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https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/337314864710164482
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“The Woolwich ‘beheading’ is straight out of al-Qaeda’s terror manual”
By Con Coughlin World Last updated: May 22nd, 2013
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http://news.sky.com/story/1094380/woolwich-soldier-dead-after-terror-attack
“Woolwich: ‘Soldier Dead After Terror Attack’
A man is filmed trying to justify a deadly attack on a man thought to be a serving soldier. Warning: Contains distressing images.”
11:17pm UK, Wednesday 22 May 2013
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NOTE Photo and Video Here:
http://www.worldthreats.com/?p=12270
“Michael ‘Mujahid’ Adeboloja Information 5/22/2013”
Posted by Matthew Avitabile On May - 22 - 2013
SNIPPET: “Michael Adeboloja is reportedly one of the London attackers. He allegedly answers to his Muslim name Mujahid, or one who fights Jihad. He is reportedly the man in the video alone. Word is that he is a Muslim convert.”
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“Woolwich attack: terrorist proclaimed ‘an eye for an eye’ after attack
A British soldier has been butchered on a busy London street by two Islamist terrorists, one of whom proclaimed afterwards: An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.”
By Gordon Rayner and Steven Swinford10:00PM BST 22 May 2013
SNIPPET: “In the first terrorist murder on the British mainland since the 7/7 suicide bombings of 2005, the men attempted to behead the soldier, hacking at him like a piece of meat in front of dozens of witnesses, before both were shot by police who took around 20 minutes to arrive.
After the killing, one of the men, believed to be a British-born Muslim convert, spoke calmly into a witnesss video phone.”
SNIPPET: “Witnesses said that the men used a car to run over the soldier just yards from the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, south-east London, before setting about him with knives and a meat cleaver as if they were trying to remove organs. One unconfirmed report suggested that he had been beheaded.
Passers-by said they thought at first that the attackers were trying to help the man, who was wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt, and only realised they were killing him when they got closer.
As they attacked the soldier, one of the men shouted Allahu akbar, or God is Great, according to the BBC, while another witness said they appeared to pray next to the body as if the solder was a sacrifice.
Their victim, thought to be aged around 20, had reportedly been on duty at an Army recruitment office in central London and was on his way back to the barracks when he was murdered at 2.20pm.”
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“Mum talked down Woolwich terrorists who told her: ‘We want to start a war in London tonight’”
SNIPPET: “Exclusive: A cub scout leader confronted terrorists just seconds after they had beheaded a soldier asking them to hand over their weapons and warning them: “It is only you versus many people, you are going to lose.””
By Claire Duffin9:55PM BST 22 May 2013
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http://www.businessinsider.com/ingrid-loyau-kennett-stands-up-to-woolwich-attacker-2013-5
“Incredible Photo Shows Mother-Of-Two Standing Up To London Attackers”
Adam Taylor | May 22, 2013, 5:23 PM
http://www.investigativeproject.org/4029/jihadists-suspected-in-shocking-daylight-attack
For The Record - The IPT Blog
“Jihadists Suspected in Shocking Daylight Attack Outside London”
by IPT News May 22, 2013 at 3:09 pm
SNIPPET: “Other witnesses reported hearing the attackers shout “Allahu Akhbar” God is Great as they attacked the soldier outside Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolich. The victim was not in uniform. Instead, he wore a T-shirt promoting a charity that serves wounded British troops.
The attackers left his body in the street and reportedly stayed nearby, “waving knives and a gun, and asked people to take pictures of them “as if they wanted to be on TV or something,’” the BBC reports.
Officials are calling it an Islamist terror attack.
Prime Minister David Cameron said the attack was “truly shocking” and called for an emergency meeting of security officials.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/toulouse/index?tab=articles
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/vangough/index?tab=articles
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“Soldier beheaded in south London: the Islamists repeatedly said they would do such things”
by Douglas Murray
22 May 2013 19:09
SNIPPET: “Similar attacks in recent years include the beheading of a Dutch film-maker, Theo van Gogh, on a street in Amsterdam in 2004 and the killing of French soldiers by Mohammed Merah in Toulouse.”
NOTE: THE SUSPECTS IDs HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED.
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Note the Comments on this blog post:
http://www.punditpress.com/2013/05/michael-mujahid-adeboloja-information.html
http://news.sky.com/story/1094560/woolwich-murder-suspects-of-nigerian-descent
“Woolwich Murder Suspect ‘Of Nigerian Descent’”
SNIPPET: “Two suspects are in a serious condition in hospital after armed police shot them following the killing of a serving soldier.”
9:37am UK, Thursday 23 May 2013
http://news.sky.com/story/1094560/woolwich-terror-murder-suspect-named
“Woolwich Terror Murder Suspect Named
Police search a house in Lincolnshire as a former Greenwich Uni student is identified as a suspect in the killing of a soldier.”
11:04am UK, Thursday 23 May 2013
SNIPPET: “One of the two terror suspects being held under armed guard at hospitals in London has been named by Sky sources as Michael Adebolajo.
The men were arrested following the hacking to death of a serving soldier in the street in Woolwich, southeast London.
Sky’s crime correspondent Martin Brunt said Adebolajo is a 28-year-old Londoner of Nigerian descent.
“He was born in Lambeth, grew up in east London. There are still members of his family living in the area.
“He was a student at Greenwich University, but it is not clear what he was studying there. Already on Facebook there are comments from former pupils say that they went to school with him in east London.””
As is mentioned in the second paragraph, such ‘courts’ are not a part of UK law, they have no basis in it.
In fact, calling them courts lend legitimacy to them, when in fact they are little more than barbaric ‘cultural’ police active within their own community (which is a very, very small minority when compared to the population of the UK).
I would just urge some solidarity, recognising that my country (as others) has a problem to be tackled.
Finally, again, RIP to the fallen hero.
Good bunch of reference links, thanks !
My reading of this piece suggests that these "courts" (or whatever they should be called) have a fair amount of authority.The reference to them deciding issued regarding child contact is particularly intriguing.In the US such issues are decided by judges appointed/elected (some states elect their judges and in some they're appointed by the Governor) under the laws of that state.I'm not challenging you here...being a foreigner a long way from Blightey I'm in no position to do so.It's just that things we hear here,along with at least parts of this piece,seem to be at odds with what you're saying.
I would just urge some solidarity, recognising that my country (as others) has a problem to be tackled.
Agreed.But,practically speaking,what can I,a foreigner in your land,do to demonstrate that solidarity? It seems to me that it's largely,if not entirely,up to those who can vote in local and Parliamentary elections to straighten things out...just as it's the responsibility of American voters to straighten us out.I'm all ears if you have ideas that have escaped me on this point.
Finally, again, RIP to the fallen hero.
Agree 100%! Is there any chance that your PM might attend his funeral? Seems to me that it would be the right thing for him to do.And Milliband too,for that matter!
for some reason we're not welcome there any more.........Not that I'd want to.....
1—They are civil courts, and legally surbordinate to English law.
2—Whether the PM/Milliband does will of course be for the family to decide. If they say yes, there would be outrage if they didnt.
ADDING to post no. 68:
“Woolwich attack: ‘I looked him in the eye. I was sure he wasnt going to kill me
Former Cub Scout leader Ingrid Loyau-Kennett tells Sarah Rainey of the moment she came face to face with Woolwich murder suspects and told them to drop their bloody weapons .”
By Sarah Rainey10:36PM BST 23 May 2013
SNIPPET: “Within seconds of getting off the bus, Mrs Loyau-Kennett realised there was more to the scene than she had thought. The dead man had apparently been run over in a car and attacked with knives. A Caribbean woman tending to the man on the ground told her he was dead.
I took his arm to feel his pulse, she remembers. There was blood on the pavement where he had been dragged and blood was pouring out of him. Suddenly this excited black man came up to me and said, ‘Get away from the body; dont touch it. I looked up and I could see red hands, a bloodied revolver, bloodied meat cleaver and a butchers knife. OK, I thought, this is bad. She stood up and started talking to the suspect, now believed to be Michael Adeboloja. He said the man was a British soldier and he had killed him, she explains. He said he did it because British soldiers had killed women and children in Muslim countries.
She says she tried not to think about the weapons the man was carrying. Its one thing to take your car and kill someone and its another to look someone in the eyes and plunge a knife into their stomach. I was sure he was not going to do that to me. I didnt even think his revolver was working, so I asked him. He looked at it and then at me and said, ‘Yes.
Mrs Loyau-Kennett says that the suspect looked genuinely upset, like someone who had seen something terrible. He seemed very agitated.
When he walked away, she approached the other man. He looked older and he said nothing, she said. I asked him if he wanted to sit down and give me what he had in his hands.
Ten minutes passed. A crowd had gathered around the dead soldier, but still nobody else approached the suspects. There were 50 to 60 people, says Mrs Loyau-Kennett. They were watching; filming on their phones. I pushed one back because he was too close. I told them if they want to do something, come and help. It made me sad. They were thinking of themselves, not about this poor guy.”
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https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/337314864710164482
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NOTE The following tex SNIPPET is a quote:
content.met.police.uk/News/Update-on-investigation-following-murder-in-Woolwich/1400017456894/1257246745756
Update on investigation following murder in Woolwich
23 May 2013
Detectives from the Counter Terrorism Command have made two further arrests today, 23 May, as part of their investigation into the murder of a soldier in Woolwich yesterday.
A 29-year-old man [C] was arrested today on suspicion of conspiracy to murder under PACE. A 29-year-old woman [D] was arrested at residential address in south London on suspicion of conspiracy to murder under PACE. They both remain in custody at a south London police station.
“London is at its best when we all come together and now is the time to do that.”
A 22-year-old man [A] and a 28-year-old man [B] shot by police at the scene have been arrested on suspicion of murder under PACE. They remain in separate London hospitals and are both in a stable condition. Their injuries are not life threatening.
Search warrants have been executed under PACE at six residential addresses; three in south London, one in east London, one in north London and one in Lincoln. The searches are ongoing.
This is a large, complex and fast-moving investigation which continues to develop.
Many lines of inquiry are being followed by detectives and the investigation is progressing well.
Officers have been gathering information from witnesses, social media and a painstaking trawl of CCTV footage in the area is taking place.
Forensic experts and specialist search officers have been carrying out a detailed examination of the scene in Woolwich. A number of items have been recovered from the scene.
We are still appealing for anyone who may have witnessed the incident in Woolwich to contact police via the Anti-Terrorist Hotline on 0800 789321.
We urge anyone who filmed or took photos as events unfolded in John Wilson Street to send them to police via woolwich@metincident.co.uk - please include your name and contact details, which will be treated in strictest confidence. Anyone who may have such material is asked not to delete it after sending it in.
A post-mortem examination is being carried out this afternoon.
More information about the investigation will be made available when possible.
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