How North Korea Could Destroy The United States

Investor's Business Daily ^ | April 5, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

[raptor22]

National Security: The administration moves an advanced missile defense system to Guam because it knows a single low-yield nuke detonated at high altitude could send America back in time a hundred years.

The announcement Wednesday by the Defense Department that it would soon deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (THAAD), a missile defense system inherited from the Bush administration, to Guam underscores the seriousness of the threat from North Korea, whose actions, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel rightly said, "present a real and clear danger."

This move comes after the Obama administration reversed its previous scuttling of Bush administration plans to increase our ground-based interceptor force in Alaska and the deployment of two destroyers equipped with Aegis missile defense systems, the Decatur and the John McCain, to the region.

Some observers dismissed it as familiar bluster when North Korea's 28-year-old raging runt, Kim Jong-un, signed an order for North Korea's strategic rocket forces to be on standby to fire at U.S. targets in front of a map that included Austin, Texas, as a target.

But other observers are concerned that a specific target may not be what the possibly imploding North Korean regime may have in mind.

The three-stage missile North Korea launched last December that also orbited a "package," which experts say could be a test to orbit a nuclear weapon that then would be de-orbited on command anywhere over the U.S. and exploded at a high altitude, releasing an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). That would fry electronic circuitry and the nation's power grid.

[Marcella]

“Sea shells, probably not.”

I know that doesn't sound right, but, it actually SAID one could use sea shells which is why I put it on that post. I suppose it burns so hot, it burns them totally up except for a bit of ash. I won't have any sea shells but some people will.

[Marcella]

“The deluxe versions run around $129, but they are well made and should last forever.”

I got mine from their actual website, StoveTec (first company that invented them), Eco Ceramic one for $102.95, free shipping.

No matter what happens, that stove will be here and work with twigs. I wrote about this stove on another website and a lady ordered one. She lives in a high rise and was so worrying about an emergency and not being able to boil water or cook. When she read what I wrote, she wrote back and said there were many bushes and small trees around that building, and she could gather them and have fuel. She is going to put the stove in her fireplace.

I looked that up for her to be sure it was okay for a fireplace, and found great big stoves like this are being stood by a fireplace with a hose going into the fireplace so the smoke, what little there is, goes up the chimney. These big stoves are being used to heat a room. There is no problem with this little stove sitting in the fireplace as long as the flu is open for the smoke.

[Gritty]

There is no problem with this little stove sitting in the fireplace as long as the flu is open for the smoke.

Right. It is also a handy heat source with very little smoke (probably lots of carbon monoxide, though).

The only down side is having to frequently feed into the chamber the feed stock of wood. You can't just fill it up and forget it. But then, it is an emergency, no?

Here is another really handy little item to have in your bugout/get-home bag...

Solo Stove

[Old Sarge]

We could have all SORTS of titles!

General Nuisance
Major Disaster
Major Mistake
Captains of Industry
Corporal Punishment
Private Parts

[Kartographer]

Ammo Can Rocket Stove

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2850938/posts

My Ammo Can Rocket Stove

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2914240/posts

[IMR 4350]

If you think that is the answer go for it. I don’t care what you do.

[editor-surveyor]

You’re about 32 cookies short of a full box.

[IMR 4350]

I am, your the one that wants to commit suicide.

[Ellendra]

I get post to my prepper threads all the time from one engineer who says it foolish to prep for more that a few days. He actually hates preppers with a passion.

Sounds like my dad, unfortunately. He's an engineer. He thinks prepping is just an excuse for hoarding disorder. He even claims that food should be thrown out if it's been 2 weeks or more since we bought it. And not just perishables, but ANY food, canned, dry, or frozen!

[Slambat]

“If it weren’t for that concerted effort (Thanks again y’all!) we’d probably still be fixing Katrina damage.”

Naa. Don’t believe it. One EMP is not going to take out
the whole US. Most buildings are grounded. Most power sustems
have shunt trip and CT breakers. There are fuses at every
transformer on the pole. A car is basically a faraday cage
and prety much EMP proof. As far as the out of state help,
like New York, Centerpoint is a union outfit and wouldn’t
let any locals help. They had to buss in union only. And they weren’t much help any way. Maybe knocked a couple of
weeks off but not much.
Like I said, maybe a 100 EMP’s but not just one.

[grey_whiskers]

Thanks for the *PING*, raptor.

Haven't been FReeping much lately but I'll try to look at the thread this weekend.

Cheers!

[TomServo]

Hell - this isn’t even an editorial. No original thought provoking ideas. It doesn’t reflect an opinion about a subject ot topic. It’s just a story. BFD.

[DuncanWaring]

Many people that work at home with computers have such systems that can run for a day or two.

A day or two?

YGBSM.

I just checked the box my UPS came in, and the largest model listed shows 70 minutes of runtime for a computer.

That's assuming your ISP is still alive.

[wxgesr]

http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=39026

the pass that worries me is after the 15th NY and DC

[editor-surveyor]

I have two units, made by Heart, each of which is capable of running all of my equipment for 48 hours before shutting down at low voltage.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Glad I bought some more canned stuff the other day.

[Marcella]

We are moving our marines out of our Japan base to lessen the chance of Japan getting hit with N. Korea bombs. And, putting antimissile equipment on Guam.

I figure if the military thinks we could get hit, we better get our own act together. Remember, Hussein has his own shelter complete with food and a surgeon should they need to go to a shelter. Unless we fend for ourselves, we have nothing.

[Nowhere Man]

After I read the book I talked to some physicists at work (real physicists who work on DARPA and defense projects not physics teachers). Their opinion was that the threat of EMP is greatly exaggerated and it would take a massive attack to completely blackout the US.

I do agree. I'm just an amateur radio operator and general geek, but I think EMP is not the 800 lbs gorilla it is made out to be, perhaps more like a 500 lbs one. For the most part, I think most cars, TV's, radios and so on will be safe. Car have metal bodies and the electronics are housed in metal too so you have a makeshift Faraday cage there. Where it can be a problem is the grid and EBT systems. If you do not have electricity, the only way to pump gas and so on is if you have a generator, a 12 volt pump or a hand pump.

[DuncanWaring]

How much power does “all your equipment” pull?