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CNN And Fox Project Romney Wins Illinois
CNN and Fox | March 20, 2012

Posted on 03/20/2012 5:51:54 PM PDT by Pinkbell

No link yet. I'm just seeing it on CNN. Reuters said Fox called it as well.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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To: Mariner

And Newt proves once again how he will win.He didnt even beat Ron Paul.The Newtereds are delusional.


141 posted on 03/20/2012 7:51:52 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: parksstp
Now witnessing that first hand, are you going to sit by and let McCain grab the nomination or are you going to do something about it.

I would not have endorsed neither McCain nor Romney.

Endorsements have consequences... as we can see today.

142 posted on 03/20/2012 7:52:33 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Don't blame me. I voted for Newt.)
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To: Kenny
So true. Sort of surprised the moderator allowed the continual negative toxic comments from these guys, horrible. Probably did their share of damage on various boards. People can only take so much of that crap and they give up.

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding, and you don't seriously think that "toxic" comments on FR or any other internet forum had anything to do with Romney winning Illinois.

143 posted on 03/20/2012 7:52:56 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: musicman

Yep. Love the cartoon.


144 posted on 03/20/2012 7:56:36 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Lady Lucky
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding, and you don't seriously think that "toxic" comments on FR or any other internet forum had anything to do with Romney winning Illinois.

I think the unrelenting barrage of garbage heaped upon Perry, Bachman, and Santorum certainly took its toll. And it wasn't just here, this lack of civility is an epidemic. Guess it's like a driver flipping off the other guy or tailgating, some sort of anonymity on the web, brings out the worst in some people.

145 posted on 03/20/2012 7:59:53 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: southernnorthcarolina
So, now what?

Since third parties don't win, we need to make the GOP the third party.

146 posted on 03/20/2012 8:02:34 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: Rome2000
Because sweater vest idiot man is a douchebag degenerate lawyer for "pro" wrestlers, who supported MYTH in 2008 and Arlen Specter, who switched parties and cast the deciding vote for Obamacare? The megalomaniac loser from PA who lost his reelection to the Senate by 18% and uses Romney supporter Foster Friess money to stay in the race and take out Gingrich?? The only solution to this problem is annihilation of the blue blood country clubbers at the RNC and their creepy pulled back wives. The GOP must die.

That's a tad harsh but I basically agree with every word of it, especially those last 4.

147 posted on 03/20/2012 8:05:42 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: tsowellfan

Turnout for Tuesday’s Illinois primary in Chicago was a meager 24 percent, ........officials said..... It was the lowest turnout for a presidential primary in the past 70 years.

Looks like nobody else wanted to vote for any of them either with only 24% coming out.


148 posted on 03/20/2012 8:06:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: tsowellfan
And suppose you just tell me here, in open forum, in front of everyone here, how Speaker Newt Gingrich plans to even get his name in nomination at the Convention, when at this time, he is prevented from GOP Convention Rules (established in 2008) from doing it? What is the point in continuing? And (the established fact) that both he and Ron Paul both lack the ability to be put into nomination in Tampa at this point.

The only two GOP candidates at this stage remaining [as of tonight, 20 March 2012 ] who have won enough won primary/caucus states to meet the threshold of having their names actually put into nomination in Tampa so they can be voted for by the delegates assembled are ROMNEY and SANTORUM?

Which states are it that Gingrich will be picking up in the next few weeks to get to that threshold? What about Louisiana where Santorum has a 9 to 10% lead over his challengers (next state up on the docket), and even there, Romney is appearing ahead of Gingrich?

Tell me who the "spoiler" is on this, at the midway point to the nomination.

Conclusion. It is time for Gingrich to leave the race, but if it takes a beating in Louisana then, so be it. Spite against Romney (as disgusting and deserving as Romney is of this), cannot propel the Speaker ad infinitum, as his fundraising imploded from February and March will probably show the same.

No we need a combined conservative effort here and no further splitting of this vote.

RNC RULE NO. 40, ELIGIBILITY FOR NAME PLACED INTO NOMINATION


149 posted on 03/20/2012 8:16:34 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: exit82
I am a student of history and I see what is coming, and it is not pretty.

The birth of our nation was not pretty. Birth never is. We're going to need a whole other birthing to replicate what has been lost.

150 posted on 03/20/2012 8:21:10 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: Mariner; All
103 posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:02:24 PM by Mariner: “To all, please forgive my antagonistic comments. I know the pain of seeing a candidate lose that you really relate to...from 1964 onward. It really, really sucks. It hurts and it's bewildering. But I have to disagree, most are not poor losers. Most Freepers are genuine winners... Santorum supporters: You have my condolences. I'll be back tomorrow to fight. Tonight you'll get my respect and comfort. For, I can remember falling to the floor in 1976, weeping.”

Thank you, Mariner. Much appreciated, and you have my forgiveness as requested.

Gingrich is not my enemy and Gingrich supporters should not be my enemy, either.

Tonight's loss in Illinois was not a surprise to me; a win would have been a surprise. I was prepared for this, though as the turnout numbers came in, I was greatly annoyed to realize that in a low-turnout election, more aggressive campaigning by Christian conservatives in the Wheaton area and southern Illinois could have won for Santorum. That's especially true because it looks like Gingrich more or less cleared out of the state to give Santorum an opportunity. I wish things had gone differently, but that's the way things worked out.

Let's move on and try to turn this thing around before Romney does become unstoppable. On that point, those who truly are Gingrich supporters here can agree with those who support Santorum.

Romney simply must be stopped or we risk either 1) a major split in the Republican Party or 2) a veering to the left of the Republican Party as it becomes obvious that conservatives will support Republicans no matter who gets nominated. In either scenario, Obama will win the 2012 election or Romney will win by a narrow margin without adequate congressional support. Either way, it's a recipe for disaster.

151 posted on 03/20/2012 8:25:32 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: conservativeinferno
70 posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:40:23 PM by conservativeinferno: “I keep hearing how Romney won’t perform well in the southern states. Does anyone really believe that Obama will win the South over Romney?”

Most of it, no.

However, we can't forget the power of black turnout in the South. Blacks traditionally have a horrible turnout percentage. Obama’s 2008 win happened in significant measure because of people who don't usually vote choosing to vote.

The end result is that North Carolina and Virginia are in play with a Romney nomination in ways that would not be with a Gingrich or Santorum nomination. Florida has long since ceased to be Southern in its core demographics except in the panhandle and other northern counties, and if Hispanics don't have a good reason to vote for a Republican, many are likely to vote Democrat. In a worst-case scenario with a highly motivated black turnout and a demotivated Republican base, several other states which usually vote Republican could flip Democrat as well.

I oppose Romney primarily because of ideological reasons — abortion is a core issue for me. However, pragmatic reasons would apply even if I were not dead-set against Romney's flip-flops on abortion, gay marriage, and other key Christian conservative issues.

152 posted on 03/20/2012 8:27:43 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Mariner

Let’s see. Santorum comes in first or second in most of the primaries, Gingrich comes in third or fourth. Santorum is in second place in delegates, Newt’s third. The resident genius’ Southern strategy got blown to smithereens by - Santorum. And HE’S the idiot?

Full disclosure: I don’t back ANY of the Four Horsemen.


153 posted on 03/20/2012 8:45:57 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Pinkbell

154 posted on 03/20/2012 8:48:19 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I agree with Newt and disagree with you and Rick Santorum.

Mitt Romney is NOT nor has he EVER been a conservative.

155 posted on 03/20/2012 8:53:44 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Don't blame me. I voted for Newt.)
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To: muawiyah

“Priebus has let us all down. We need him out of there ~ NOW!”

Priebus didn’t set up this primary system, Steele did, along with the rest of the Repub Leadership (Lugar, McConnell, etc)


156 posted on 03/20/2012 8:54:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: PzLdr
And HE’S the idiot?

No, but Santorum is Romney-Lite. His past endorsements prove it.

157 posted on 03/20/2012 8:55:09 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Don't blame me. I voted for Newt.)
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To: Clara Lou
Same here. If Romney were to run against anyone but Obama, I might just sit this one out. But I CAN NOT sit out and by doing so let Obama win and take over this country anymore then he already has.
158 posted on 03/20/2012 8:57:11 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: tsowellfan

Show me where I *ever* said that, that which you claim or infer I said about Romney. Go ahead. Waiting for you to cite such post or posts. Waiting.


159 posted on 03/20/2012 9:04:36 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: tsowellfan

And Gingrich posed with Pelosi, announced his belief in global warming, etc., etc. He’s undisciplined, the most unelectable of the candidates [Paul doesn’t count], and running in the bottom tier in the primaries now, with no money, no organization, and almost no shot.

So since Romney is the anti-Christ around here [and I don’t like him] why aren’t all the Newtrinos calling on the Newster to fold up, and back Santorum. I know why Gingrich won’t do it. His ego.


160 posted on 03/20/2012 9:06:24 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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