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Back to Bush’s Big-Government Conservatism
National Review ^ | 11/30/11 | Michael Tanner

Posted on 11/30/2011 10:27:18 AM PST by Bokababe

In the wake of the disastrous Bush presidency and the Republican defeats of 2006 and 2008, it was widely assumed that the GOP had repudiated the idea that big government could be harnessed for conservative ends. And, of course, in 2010, the Tea Party led a return to conservatism’s traditional small-government roots, resulting in the biggest Republican landslide in 70 years. One would think that settled the matter.

Yet, just five weeks out from the Iowa caucuses, both of the front-runners for the Republican nomination are strong advocates for a bigger, more activist government....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; election; teaparty
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Here we go again....
1 posted on 11/30/2011 10:27:22 AM PST by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

The article seems pretty accurate to me....


2 posted on 11/30/2011 10:34:33 AM PST by Turtlepower
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To: Bokababe

Voters are easily manipulated. They see Newt say all the right things without the evidence or the history to back it up. At this point, you could train Hillary Clinton to speak conservative and there’d be some people that would buy that too.

Cain, Bachmann, Santorum. Those are the real conservatives in the race. If you don’t like it, then stage a rally in Wasilla and see if it works.


3 posted on 11/30/2011 10:37:48 AM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Bokababe

The article is dead-on accurate.

If you are looking for somone to fix the size of government, who actually believes in what our founders believed in, that is limited-government, you’ll have to look elsewhere than Myth and Newt.

Pretty much peas-in-a-pod.


4 posted on 11/30/2011 10:41:16 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Bokababe

“How did Newt help to balance the budget before? And what major entitlement did he help to reform? Newt has said he would have voted for Ryan’s budget. Newt supported an individual mandate at the time in OPPOSITION to government run healthcare (Hillary Care), along with Heritage and many other conservatives at the time. Let’s not revise history, shall we?”


5 posted on 11/30/2011 10:41:27 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Bokababe
...Barry Goldwater once described his political philosophy by saying, “I have little interest in streamlining government or making it more efficient, for I intend to reduce its size.”

...I have no hero's, but I loved Goldwater. Is there anyone that emulates or embraces this philosophy?

6 posted on 11/30/2011 10:43:47 AM PST by gargoyle (...Amendments 1 and 2, a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: Bokababe

maybe Ron Paul deserves another look? I know he is crazy, but he is a small government guy, just saying.


7 posted on 11/30/2011 10:45:14 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Bokababe

This is why we are doomed. A President Romney won’t want to take an ax to government spending any more than Compassionate Conservative Lyndon Baines Bush did. Both pay lip service to cutting government — Bush outright lied about his intentions to cut government in the 2004 election. Its why the GOP collapsed in 2008. I’d rather have Obama than a government-expanding Republican in the White House and I’m dead serious.


8 posted on 11/30/2011 10:55:32 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Bokababe

“...Both Gingrich and Romney have long supported more federal involvement and spending in education. Both backed No Child Left Behind. In fact, both endorsed the same strange idea of having the federal government buy a laptop computer for every child in America...”

But its “for the children”. So all libs support taking your money to give somebody else a laptop when what the kids really need is more pencil and paper work and more exercise outside.


9 posted on 11/30/2011 11:05:01 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Turtlepower
I disagree. I saw Newt's Contract with American on YouTube and if it is followed, the government will be cut and power of all branches reduced.

Newt has a record of governmental conservatism but also of smaller government. He did some good things and he pulled some boners... Cain is my #1, but if it is Newt, I will resolve to put pressure on him to follow the new Contract.

10 posted on 11/30/2011 11:10:12 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: gargoyle; jpsb
...I have no hero's, but I loved Goldwater. Is there anyone that emulates or embraces this philosophy?

maybe Ron Paul deserves another look? I know he is crazy, but he is a small government guy, just saying.

Goldwater's 1964 campaign slogan: "In your heart, you know he's right"

His opposition turned that into: "In your guts, you know he's nuts,"

See any similarities in how the establishment fights back against any threat to their big government power?

11 posted on 11/30/2011 11:18:55 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: 11th Commandment

Please put pressure on Newt to be a real conservative; I’m sure that will work!

Newt is another typical, establishment Republican that compromises too easily. He can’t be trusted. The GOP keeps putting up these lame, liberal establishment types and conservatives keep dreaming that once in office these RINOs will actually be true to conservatisim. I’m afraid it’s wishful thinking on your part.

The GOP has showed it’s too willing to increase the federal government even when it controls the Exec and Legislative branches. Only true, Tea Party candidates can be trusted to limit the federal government.


12 posted on 11/30/2011 11:39:22 AM PST by Turtlepower
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for posting this great article. Michael Tanner had many great statements. One of my favorites is as follows:

” - - - But for those with a yearning for a smaller, more limited, more constitutional government, this election becomes more dismal with each passing day.”


13 posted on 11/30/2011 11:44:20 AM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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Lol, I like Paul, he is my Congressman and he is pretty good on spending. He loses me with his blame America foreign policy, even thou he does have some good points about the neocon nation building binge we been on lately. He’s a little weak on the boarder security/amnesty too I think, which is a deal breaker for me. But on domestic policy Paul is the best IMHO.


14 posted on 11/30/2011 11:51:11 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jessduntno
...supported an individual mandate ..., along with Heritage and many other conservatives at the time.

BS!

Heritage did NOT support an individual mandate for HEALTHCARE Insurance! The ONLY mandate which they ever supported was the CATASTROPHIC/Stop Loss Insurance (which is ILLEGAL under ObamaCare)! The catastrophic insurance would not have had a minimum nor maximum and it would be up to the heads-of-households to determine their own amount and it would be those same leaders responsibility to have insurance or enough money in the bank to care for one's self! That is NOT in any way, shape or form the same as ObamaCare's mandate; comparing the two is simply disingenuous! It is like comparing apples and orangutangs!

Heritage has stated, more than once, that there are two options for paying for healthcare: pay for your own healthcare or have insurance! Never, EVER have they supported an individual, GOVERNMENT-FORCED, Health Insurance mandate which punishes individuals AND companies for failing to purchase a private product which must be built to minimum and maximum government mandated standards!!

I am tired of this BS being put out there! Get it right - they are not the same! They have never been the same and they never will be the same!
15 posted on 11/30/2011 11:52:19 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Bokababe
...Been having talks with a fellow on another thread about the Goldwater "In your guts, you know he's nuts," deal. I was too young in 64, but I remember the emergence of the libertarian party 72 and have leaned that way in my philosophy. Ron Paul is being demonized the same way on FR. I disagree with him on a couple of issues, but, voted for him before. Too early to say now, but, with the current clowns to choose from, I might (as they say and are dead wrong) waste my vote. That "throwing away your vote" crap is a whole other argument entirely.
16 posted on 11/30/2011 11:55:32 AM PST by gargoyle (...Amendments 1 and 2, a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: Bokababe

3rd Party. GOP & Dem’s are worthless.


17 posted on 11/30/2011 11:55:43 AM PST by mulligan
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To: ExTxMarine

How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Invented the Individual Mandate

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/


18 posted on 11/30/2011 11:59:53 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: ExTxMarine

How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Invented the Individual Mandate

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/


19 posted on 11/30/2011 12:00:02 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jpsb
...Like Bok stated and I agree with both of you, the same thing was said about Goldwater, who I would've voted for at the age of 12.
20 posted on 11/30/2011 12:00:26 PM PST by gargoyle (...Amendments 1 and 2, a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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