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On the gun-control theory of ATF's Fast and Furious
Arizona Daily Star ^ | November 2, 2011 | Tim Steller

Posted on 11/07/2011 8:35:43 PM PST by george76

The theory, in brief, is that the Obama administration deliberately pumped guns into Mexico through Operation Fast and Furious in an effort to create a justification to impose gun control measures. I boiled the theory down to this...:

1. Obama and Holder support gun control but needed a pretext to implement it.

2. The administration argued falsely in 2009 that U.S. guns made up 90 percent of those used in Mexican gun crimes. That was the same time when Operation Fast and Furious began.

3. By flooding Mexico with high-powered weapons they were able to justify restrictions on U.S. guns. In fact, in July 2011, the administration put in place a rule requiring border-state firearms dealers to report anyone who buys more than one assault-type rifle within a five-day period.

Those are the basic concepts that I could fit in the story, but there are a couple of other worthwhile points to make in support of the theory.

ATF agent and whistleblower Vince Cefalu, who spoke at a Sept. 26 Tucson Tea Party event ... supports the gun-control theory. One of his key points is his analysis of the goals of Fast and Furious and gunwalking: “I don’t know what they were thinking, because nothing they have portrayed they were thinking makes any sense. It defies logic, common sense.”

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Another point, made to me by John Lott, the author of "More Guns, Less Crime," is that a variety of agencies became involved in Fast and Furious, including DEA and FBI. When multiple agencies become involved, Lott said, it becomes more necessary for political appointees in D.C. to consider and approve plans.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


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To: txnuke

See post #4 for a chilling alternate/parallel purpose for F&F.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 4:26:04 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MestaMachine

Not a doubt in my mind that building the case for draconian gun control was the rationale for Fast and Furious. They even brought Mexican president Felipe Calderón to claim in front of Congress that American guns were being used in Mexico.

The drug dealers have co-opted the military, and have access to any weapon in Mexico’s arsenal, including fully automatic weapons. They control the borders, and can smuggle anything they need in from other Central American countries. They operate their own submarines that can deliver whatever the arms dealers will ship them. The going price for a fully automatic AK-47 is something like $100 from international arms dealers. They have the money to pay for it all.

And we’re supposed to believe they’re buying $500 semi-autos in Harlingen two at a time? Bullsh*t! Anyone who believes that is a damned idiot.


42 posted on 11/08/2011 5:25:06 PM PST by LouD (I stand with Scott Walker)
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To: MestaMachine
Fascinating. I knew there were other ops, but not that they were ongoing (the arrogance!).

May the steady drip of truth erode the facade of tacqiya, propoganda and misdirection!

43 posted on 11/08/2011 6:07:55 PM PST by txnuke
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To: OneWingedShark
The Patriot Act is one point they are spot on about; it is a huge pile of dung from which grew our current TSA (who by their very nature violate the 4th Amendment as a matter of standard procedure).

I can really get them riled up by telling them that the TEA Party opposed the Patriot Act, too. I keep telling them that they're starting to sound more and more like the TEA Party and should come out to a rally.

44 posted on 11/09/2011 5:17:55 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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45 posted on 11/16/2011 3:55:18 PM PST by CedarDave
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