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(Live Thread) Republican Presidential Debate #8 Oct. 18, 2011 Nevada 8 P.M. EDT CNN
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 | Kristinn/ newzjunkey

Posted on 10/18/2011 4:37:49 PM PDT by kristinn

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
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To: flaglady47
He wouldn’t, because Perry can’t debate. Man, he’s terrible at it. It’s embarrassing.

If the president's job consisted of debate performances, that might be a disqualifier. Also, the Press doesn't get to set the number of debates or define the forum of debates for the general election. The two candidates agree to the number and type of debates. Perry can choose his best forums.

2,241 posted on 10/19/2011 10:41:29 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: flaglady47
You do not care about their eternal fate.

That Lutheran/Catholic background training must really be something to behold.

2,242 posted on 10/19/2011 10:44:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Perry can choose his best forums.

He has to GET there first!

2,243 posted on 10/19/2011 10:45:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

I know you’re not holding your breath for a response indicating consistency.
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I hope you weren’t holding your breath the whole time I was at the gym for yoga class. :-)


2,244 posted on 10/19/2011 10:45:39 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Elsie

I didn’t post in order to get into a debate on Mormonism on a thread about last night’s debate. I only questioned the terminology of the post because I had no idea what she was saying. She has cleared it up and that’s all I’m interested in.


2,245 posted on 10/19/2011 10:49:49 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yes, thank you.

Sarah Palin was Greta’s guest last night!

GO MR. SPEAKER!


2,246 posted on 10/19/2011 10:53:00 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! Compiling New Sarah Palin Ping List! Tell me if you want on it!)
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To: Elsie
I having this nagging feeling that you’re not being square with me...

I do my best. What is it you wanted to know? I read through the postings and posted to the original poster so as not to single anyone out. You, self-selected yourself. Like I said, what is it you want me to be "square" about? What's the mystery?

2,247 posted on 10/19/2011 11:09:37 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bcsco; Elsie

I didn’t post in order to get into a debate on Mormonism on a thread about last night’s debate.
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Under the rules of the debates, if someone is mentioned they get to rebutt discuss etc...

Mormonism was mentioned in last nights debate

so since you have rightly said that this is “a thread about last night’s debate”. anything mentioned should not be excluded...

I was merely repeating what was said last night...

There was a discussion about the Founding Fathers and Mormonism and I commented on it...

The Founding Fathers WERE dead dunked into Mormonism. I dont care how long after they were dead and when Mormonism was invnted...

It did happen...

However Romney was not honest last night about how the Mormons treated the same Founding fathers who they claim gave them the “right” to practice their Mormon religion...


2,248 posted on 10/19/2011 11:16:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SZonian
I should disassociate myself from my family
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They above are your words not mine.

The following is not sensible:

You state, “I’m against everything the mormon church stands for, not the people.”

Religious belief ( regardless of the religion) , if it truly is believed, **is** the very fundamental essence of who and what that person **is**. It is their core worldview. How can you be against a religion and somehow not be against the person? Huh?

It's like saying that you are against everything the person believes, works for, strives for, organizes their life around, all their goals and projects, but...you are somehow not against the person. Sorry. That doesn't compute.

2,249 posted on 10/19/2011 11:23:21 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Elsie

This is getting laborious. I didn’t question whether your post was credible, I only posted questioning the meaning of “dunk dead” and the relationship of Mormonism to the Founding Fathers. That’s all. You explained that, for which I thank you. My only further point to Elsie was that, being satisfied in your response, I really don’t care to discuss the issue further. If you care to, fine, but please exclude me from your discussion.

Thanks.


2,250 posted on 10/19/2011 11:34:18 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: ozarkgirl

So apparently you know nothing of the mormonISM’s policy on abortion.
Seriously, study up before you comment on what mormonISM actually is.


2,251 posted on 10/19/2011 11:37:06 AM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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To: SZonian
Do you associate only with those who you are in complete agreement?
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Some issues are deal killers, and I do everything possible to either eliminate or minimize my contact with people who hold these “deal killer” beliefs.

But apparently you can be “against **everything** the mormon church stands for,” but somehow not be against the people who promote, live, stand for, defend, organize every minute of their day around, and establish “everything the mormon church stands for..”

Somehow being against **”everything**” the Mormon church stands for, isn't a deal killer for you.

Wow! Sorry...I don't see how that is possible.

2,252 posted on 10/19/2011 11:37:13 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: PapaNew

Except, as I mentioned later, companies tend to incorporate increased expenses into the cost to the next guy in the chain.


2,253 posted on 10/19/2011 11:40:06 AM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him before he started the revolution?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I meant that Libya is in Africa.

The way she said it, she obviously didn’t realize that.

I agree about the troops. Just pointing out her inaccuracy and omission.


2,254 posted on 10/19/2011 11:44:10 AM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him before he started the revolution?)
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To: bcsco; Elsie

I only posted questioning the meaning of “dunk dead” and the relationship of Mormonism to the Founding Fathers. That’s all. You explained that, for which I thank you.
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No kid I didnt “explain” anything...

Why I mentioned “temple word” is because that is what the ghosts of all those Founding Fathers were reported to have called it when they visited that Mormon leader and haunted him into dead dunking them because they claimed they needed it and deserved it...

You claimed you knew what “temple work” was and I asked you to explain it to me...

Well are you going to ???

Courtesy PING to Elsie


2,255 posted on 10/19/2011 11:48:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: glock rocks; Jim Robinson; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
I pinged Jim because I think what I said is important to FR. If you want to burn mormons in your furnace for heat this winter, go for it.

Glock, if you think you have an "in" with JR because of your visit to Utah Binger's get-together, I doubt very much if it extends to your being given a pass for accusing other FReepers of "wanting to burn mormons in your furnace for heat this winter," you may be in for a surprise.

This is exactly the kind of hate speech that has resulted in the banning of several others who have leveled similar charges against other FReepers.

I suggest you rethink your method of attack.

BTW, the accusations of "mormon haters" was introduced on this thread due to my response of an "LOL" to a joke by a FReeper who has no connection with the Inmans. Flaglady47 jumped at the opportunity to begin her hate rants against the Inmans.

Follow the comments below

"To: greyfoxx39

“Romney is about to cry! It’s a good thing he has the audience stacked with all his wives!”

Perfect example of a Mormon hater. “All his wives”?

1,561 posted on 10/18/2011 7:13:40 PM PDT by flaglady47


2,256 posted on 10/19/2011 11:48:44 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mittbots on FR swarm just like the nasty crazy, hairy ants.)
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To: firebrand

Oh

It could be that she knows more about the movement of the troops than we do...

Libya is in North Africa so she may not have been wrong after all..


2,257 posted on 10/19/2011 11:52:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: glock rocks

Are you ignorant or stupid or both.
What a frakingly idiotic thing to say.


2,258 posted on 10/19/2011 11:54:12 AM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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To: wintertime

I don’t view a person’s religion as a “deal killer” when it comes to personal relationships. (islam is purposely excluded since it’s a form of government, an idealogy)

It’s part of who they are, not what they are. Why can’t one be against something someone else believes in, yet still care for that person? I have liberal friends that I work on persistently in getting them to see the light.

Thus it’s the same way with mormonism. I believe that every soul is worth saving and that cutting myself off from them is essentially a failure to follow God’s command.

But that’s just me I guess, because according to you, you just can’t see how it’s possible.

Your mileage obviously varies and I sense from your posts, that you are demonstrably timid in following the admonition in the Biblical scripture I posted.

Abandoning friends and acquaintances to their fate because of liberalism or a religion that is contrary to established Christian beliefs because their beliefs are “deal killers” to you is, in my mind, unconscionable.

I’m done with “hijacking” the thread.

FRegards


2,259 posted on 10/19/2011 11:55:03 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: bray

That’s my take on it too. I’m not convinced the 999 plan is stellar, but the talk of it is a good jumping off point. I applaud Cain for making the case. Notice everyone is piling on him, but haven’t the juevos to introduce their own plan.


2,260 posted on 10/19/2011 11:56:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obyema 2012 - he has addition deficit disorder... (not my line, but a great one to repeat))
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