Posted on 09/25/2011 6:34:42 AM PDT by no dems
I so tire of people saying: "Well, I like Herman Cain, but, he can't win." Well, I think the Florida Presidential Poll yesterday said differently. Cain received more votes than Perry-winkle and Rino Romney put together:
Cain: 37%
Perry: 15%
Romney:14%
And Perry worked his butt off and spent a lot of money. The Floridians ate the dummy's free breakfast, endured his perfunctory speech and then went and voted for someone who actually has some ideas and can put a sentence together and explain his ideas. I think it's time for Herman Cain to be taken seriously.
I enjoyed the straw poll too but, please, let’s get real.
Herman got 900+ votes from GOP ACTIVISTS. The 2700 participants were dominated by people who are very conservative, which is wonderful in and of itself but not exactly typical of either the entire GOP or the electorate, nearly 50% of which lives off the government dole.
Cain as a VP choice for whomever emerges as the final GOP candidate would be great. Herman would devastate Biden in a debate and would win the admiration of a whole lot of rather uninterested voters once they got to know him.
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These people do not by and large like Herman Cain, in my opinion and already have other primary loyalties. Some may be in the process of having their sacred cows stepped on and it doesnt feel good I can get that, and empathize to some extent. BUT they really should be a little more honest here on FR if you ask me.
Sheesh. This is worse than DNC seminar callers. Youd' think they are operating from some kind of boilerplate template of sorts. Boring. Repetitive. Predictable.
Herman Cain to be taken seriously.
Herman Cain can't win.
born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!
Biden is a better debater than Obama. So by that logic, I think Herman Cain could absolutely clean the floor with Obama, in all three Presidential debates. No doubt about it.
LIKE OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT WAS EXPERIENCED?
I'd prefer the second, but the first would allow continuity after the first two terms.
Cheers!
What I have more serious doubts about is that he could win the Republican Party nomination to get on the ballot.
After seeing what happened with Lisa Murkowski, I'd fully expect the Republican Party leadership to Bork him before they let him get the nomination instead of one of the chosen party insiders.
Typical words of an establishment republican.
They will try, yes. Good observation. But they will not succeed. They will be consumed in a Tea Party grassroots fire of biblical proportions in 2012. People are PISSED (and they are in no mood for either the MSM OR the Party Elites telling them who is “top tier” and who isnt. They are just positioning at some time to start shutting conservative candidates out of the debates, till you have maybe two or three RINOS left to pick from. Wont have any of it this time around!
Okay, I'll say it. Herman Cain can't and won't win. He will not be our nominee. It's just not going to happen. Cain is a good guy and the grass roots love him, but when it comes time to actually cast real primary votes Cain won't get above 5% pretty much anywhere. As someone else said, if straw polls mattered much, Ron Paul would be President. In fact, straw polls matter so little that Bachmann won the biggest one in Iowa and immediately plummeted to Huntsman territory in national opinion polls.
The liberal spin is...if he’s a black conservative, he isn’t really black.
Absurd, I know.
I wish I had your confidence, but it's been going to be different this time, every time, and it hasn't been yet.
Cain / Rubio
I agree wholeheartedly. Ever since the McCain debacle, I give the RNC a piece of my mind when they call, which they do quite often. Ugh! They’ll not get another dime from me. I tell them I donate to individual CONSERVATIVE candidates ONLY. Then I hang up. If enough of us do this, maybe they’ll get the message.
I guess Eisenhower was underqualified, having spent his entire adult life only in the military/diplomatic area.
“I was in the Perry boat previously but I have jumped ship for Cain. I think it would be awesome to have Cain be our next President!!”
Won’t happen. Obama would not run again, the libs would Hillary up and the dems talking point would be, “why do we need another black conservative running our country?”
And they would blame GWB for it.
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