Palin Calls House Debt Vote a (Qualified) Victory for Tea Party

The Wall Street Journal ^ | August 2, 2011 | Danny Yadron

[EveningStar]

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Monday’s House vote to lift the debt ceiling was a victory for the tea party, proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.

“We shall take this victory and make sure our politicians in office today are learning from this victory,” Ms. Palin said Monday night on Fox News, where she is a paid contributor. “It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.”

[Polybius]

You have to remember, FREEPERS are not main stream voters, we are not even main stream Republicans. We are on the right side fringe. There is never going to be the perfect candidate for all of us.

You have to remember, John D, that the Conservatively Holier Than Thou Brigade does not care about actually winning the general election in November.

They only care about being able to brag, after a bloodbath in November, that their nominee was 100% Politically Pure by their standard.

[BillyBoy]

>> the Conservatively Holier Than Thou Brigade does not care about actually winning the general election in November. <<

On the contrary, I'm against Perry precisely BECAUSE I want to win in November. The reasons the Perry brigade are giving for Perry's "electability" are the same reasons the dummycrats used when they nominated "more electable" John Kerry in 2004. Just because some flip-flopping party hack with nice hair and an "acceptable" record for his party's base wins a bunch of times against laughable "opponents" in a state that ALWAYS elects his party, doesn't somehow make him more "electable" nationwide. Ohio doesn't want to vote for more Massachusetts liberals or Texas compassionate conservatives. Voters are sick and tired of that.

I've always tried to back the most conservative candidate who is likely to win in November (and that certainly ain't Perry in this election cycle... you might as well proclaim Orrin Hatch is "Obama's worse nightmare" because that makes as much sense as claiming Obama is scared to death of Perry) Because of that I've been called everything from a "extreme right wing purist" to a "RINO lover" on this forum, which means I'm probably neither.

But since the data about the candidate's policy record and popularity is clearly not on the side of the "well informed" Perry supporters, we're instead treated the same two talking points chanted endlessly:

1) Whining "nobody's perfect" (when we never demanded perfection and simply pointed out Perry's track record is mediocre and FAR from ideal),

2) In the same breath, insisting Sarah Palin's endorsements ARE perfect and must NEVER be questioned ("Palin says Perry is conservative. She ain't good enough for ya?!").

Yeah, that will win over more freepers to your side! I guess it worked wonders for Carly Fiorina!

[Logic n' Reason]

Quoting Greta’s assignment of “victory” to TEA for changing the nature of the debate, Palin reiterated “this victory” strictly in context of TEA’s influence on the process. Palin did not offer any other significant notion of “victory” concerning this bastard of a bill.

One then wonders....will she? Offer other significant notion(s) of "victory" concerning this bastard of a bill?? If so, when. If not, why not?

[Artemis Webb]

What you are saying is correct. It's impossible on FR to make any criticism of Palin’s desirability as a candidate without being accused of “PDS” or of “hating” Sarah Palin.

[stephenjohnbanker]

It is like a black man shouting “racist”, if you prove Obama is a Marxist.

[Sola Veritas]

“Let me tell you something my friend. Everybody got something, and everybody wanted more, but we control the debate right now. Notice how Sarah has become very visible and very vocal these last few days. That’s not an accident.”

More Palin worship that isn;t merited. The Tea Party got played and then snubbed - the ONLY reason Dems are whinning is because they couldn’t completely control the outcome. Palin is making herself look like a fool to suggest a Tea Party victory. It doesn’t please me to say negative things about Palin.

Even Rush Limbaugh says you are wrong

“I read some of, but I don’t have time tonight to read all of it. I will say this though. I doubt very much that Rush believes we were’t going to get out of this without rasing the debt ceiling. He’s too smart for that, and you’re too naive to understand it.”

NEVER in anything that I have written did I say that the debt ceiling could not be raised. So, you are attacking a straw man. However, the Tea Party faithful were about stopping its raising without cuts to offset....they AREN’T going to happen. They said NO TAX INCREASES, well those are already on the plate and the current law allows them....the Dems are calling for them. Once again...this isn’t a victory for the Tea Party. They got played and then ignored, and the MSM is painting them as “terrorists.”

Sarah Palin is looking the fool, and the Tea Party has been damaged (by both moderate Repubs as well as liberal Dems). Hopefully they can regain and advance ground in 2012.

I WANT Sarah to run, but she needs to be more careful on what she calls a victory. Reminds me of how Lincoln’s administration called the Battle of Antietam a “victory” when it was at best a bloody standoff. But it was polically expedient.

You have danced around the central truth in these posts that Palin is falible. Defending her on this issue is assinine and smacks of a personality cult. Palin is not a God....stop worshiping her as if she was. When she makes a mistake admit it. The ability to see her as human and fallible actually makes her a better candidate.

[TomServo]

Don’t forget

HATER!!
HATER!!
HATER!!
HATER!!
HATER!!

[csense]

More Palin worship that isn;t merited.

You're right, it isn't merited because there's nothing in my posts that would suggest such a thing. In fact, there's nothing in my posting history that would suggest it. I like Sarah Palin. I like her a lot, but I watch her very carefully, just like I would any candidate. You're barking up the wrong tree on this my friend.

[Qbert]

“You have to remember, John D, that the Conservatively Holier Than Thou Brigade does not care about actually winning the general election in November.”

What world do you live on?

Here on Earth, Tea Party-led Conservatives delivered the Dems an electoral bloodbath this past November...

[Sola Veritas]

“You’re right, it isn’t merited because there’s nothing in my posts that would suggest such a thing. In fact, there’s nothing in my posting history that would suggest it. I like Sarah Palin. I like her a lot, but I watch her very carefully, just like I would any candidate. You’re barking up the wrong tree on this my friend.”

Well, I apologize for reading you wrong. However, understand that you seem unable to back off on defending Palin when she says something dumb (IMO). I am used to Palinistas that would send the rest of their lives defending Sarah if she said the earth was flat. Their, unreasonable worship, is really getting old.

I too like Sarah, but I don’t blindly give her a pass.