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Palin Calls House Debt Vote a (Qualified) Victory for Tea Party
The Wall Street Journal ^ | August 2, 2011 | Danny Yadron

Posted on 08/02/2011 9:55:56 AM PDT by EveningStar

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Monday’s House vote to lift the debt ceiling was a victory for the tea party, proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.

“We shall take this victory and make sure our politicians in office today are learning from this victory,” Ms. Palin said Monday night on Fox News, where she is a paid contributor. “It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debtceiling; palin; sarahpalin; teaparty
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To: ansel12

Thanks for pointing out this thread, but you know what? What I see here are many of the same people who were soundly refuted on the thread last night, right here repeating the same propaganda knowing full well they are lying through their teeth.
So here is an article that repeats exactly what we proved was wrong because that seems to be the ONLY thing that anyone either thinks they heard, or deliberately skewed to fit the anti-Palin establishment agenda.
The nimtods on this thread who know better are simply seriously dishonest, and those who did not see last night’s thread but attack Sarah Palin anyway as venomously as they do, are not worth the time or the effort to argue with. That’s the fact of it. It will not change, and frankly, they are so radical in their hatred of all things Sarah that I need to wash my eyes out several times just to wade through it.
Leave them to their hatefest. There is no sense in trying to treat rocks as if they have brains. Won’t work.


121 posted on 08/02/2011 5:39:47 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: rob777

“...dedicated to figuring out what she said.”

Yes, I’ve noted Sarah’s tendency to be cryptic. It is not a deal-breaker for me, but I certainly don’t list it on the Advantages side of her balance.

For example, her mysterious remarks about contested primaries. For all I know she could have been talking about Obama. Most reports say she was referring to TEA Party freshmen who were going soft on earlier debt talks/votes. If that is the case, then it appears most of the TEA folk, including herself, did not put much stock in her threat.

Or... perhaps this is just a political maneuver to make it look like the TEA folk voted as she wanted.

Does she have sway and these guys voted for a bill she would sign? Or was she swayed by ambition to feign tacit support for the position a majority of her threatened minions eventually took?

Neither option would be good.

Of course, I understand her qualifications of the ‘victory’ statement and her supporters analysis of that which says she does not like the bill but still considers the TEA influence as some sort of moral victory. But Rush is Right, as usual, there is no such thing as moral victory in politics.

At the VERY best, today’s law is an IMMORAL victory for those who claim it anything other than a disastrous defeat.

Victory in that it might save some seats or reputations or tee times. Immoral in that we just gave the most irresponsible spender in US history the largest credit card balance bump ever recorded. And all I got was this lousy “I survived ‘Victory’” T-shirt.

Perhaps this is an example of Palin either swaying or approving the majority of the TEA caucus and their votes. And perhaps it will be hailed another Bachmann legislative failure because she and a third of the TEA people chose higher and righter ground to make a stand.

If so, I am DEFINITELY voting for legislative failure over executive experience in 2012.

As Micheal Reagan just reminded us, his dad died waiting for Congress to fulfill the elusive 3-to-1 ‘out years’ promise. Not only did we NOT win one for the Gipper today, we also failed to learn from his mistake:

You will ALL be ‘under’ long before the Capitol calender gets to any ‘out’ years.


122 posted on 08/02/2011 5:40:32 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BuddhaBrown
"Yes, I’ve noted Sarah’s tendency to be cryptic. It is not a deal-breaker for me, but I certainly don’t list it on the Advantages side of her balance."


The problem I have with this "tendency to be cryptic" is that it sometimes comes off as an attempt to satisfy more than one audience while not saying anything of substance. It reinforces my suspicion that she is more of a populist than an ideological conservative. Bachmann may have her faults, but I have no doubts about where she stands ideologically.
123 posted on 08/02/2011 6:36:06 PM PDT by rob777
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To: stephenjohnbanker

We can all tell where your house is. It is the house with the PDS Tour Bus parked outside!;)


124 posted on 08/02/2011 6:48:08 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

LOL!


125 posted on 08/02/2011 6:52:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: csense; All

You are wrong. The Tea Party caucus wanted more...and didn’t get nada. Even Rush Limbaugh says you are wrong:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080211/content/01125108.guest.html

Personnally, I knew they wouldn’t get much either, but was surprised how little they did get after all the noise and votes. I’m not a Tea Party member, I lean their direction though, so I didn’t really have a horse in this. However, no sensible, no insult intended, can see this as a “win” for the Tea Party or for conservatism. Obama was the winner here.


126 posted on 08/02/2011 6:57:03 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jeff Head

” When we give the biggest socialist/marxist in American history, all the more tragic because he is the President, a check for an immediate almost Trillion dollars, and agree to a spending cut next year of 21 billion dollars, and the year after that 46 billion dollars...that is no victory. “

EPIC FAIL


127 posted on 08/02/2011 6:58:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rob777

“The problem I have with this “tendency to be cryptic” is that it sometimes comes off as an attempt to satisfy more than one audience while not saying anything of substance. It reinforces my suspicion that she is more of a populist than an ideological conservative. Bachmann may have her faults, but I have no doubts about where she stands ideologically. “

B U M P


128 posted on 08/02/2011 7:01:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rob777

Agreed.


129 posted on 08/02/2011 7:12:01 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: indylindy; stephenjohnbanker

Bus? You mean you don’t have landing privileges?
“PDS” is clearly visible on the helipad.

;-)


130 posted on 08/02/2011 7:16:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: calcowgirl

You almost got me to expose it...shame on you!!


131 posted on 08/02/2011 7:19:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: calcowgirl

LOL!

CNN lives there....for the brilliant quotes, no doubt : )


132 posted on 08/02/2011 7:24:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Understood. Has she actually moved in?


133 posted on 08/02/2011 8:15:06 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: stephenjohnbanker

;-)


134 posted on 08/02/2011 10:16:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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Flagrant spin!

Quoting Greta’s assignment of “victory” to TEA for changing the nature of the debate, Palin reiterated “this victory” strictly in context of TEA’s influence on the process. Palin did not offer any other significant notion of “victory” concerning this bastard of a bill.


135 posted on 08/02/2011 10:21:28 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: Logic n' Reason

>> Mrs. Palin is DEAD WRONG!!

See my post #135


136 posted on 08/02/2011 10:24:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: faucetman
This would have been the end of the Republican Party at the exact time we Conservatives are finally taking it over.

Well, that was good for a guffaw.

137 posted on 08/02/2011 10:28:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.' - -John Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, that was good for a guffaw.


And a snort. :)


138 posted on 08/02/2011 10:52:27 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: BillyBoy; Artemis Webb; mewzilla; TomServo
>> Well Sarah Palin says it’s a victory so all debate is now closed. <<

Isn't that the argument used whenever Perry's conservative credentials are questioned?

No. When Perry is questioned (on every Perry thread) there is argument, back and forth, and the Perry opponents usually outnumber the Perry supporters.

For many months, since the topic of a potential Sarah Palin Presidential run has existed, any questioning of Sarah Palin's desirability as the GOP candidate is always met with a chorus of:

"PDS! PDS! PDS! PDS! PDS!"

139 posted on 08/02/2011 11:06:41 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Sola Veritas
The Tea Party caucus wanted more...and didn’t get nada.

Let me tell you something my friend. Everybody got something, and everybody wanted more, but we control the debate right now. Notice how Sarah has become very visible and very vocal these last few days. That's not an accident.

Even Rush Limbaugh says you are wrong

I read some of, but I don't have time tonight to read all of it. I will say this though. I doubt very much that Rush believes we were't going to get out of this without rasing the debt ceiling. He's too smart for that, and you're too naive to understand it.

140 posted on 08/02/2011 11:15:20 PM PDT by csense
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