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Alabama Passes Mandatory E-Verify & Immigration Enforcement Bill
NumbersUSA ^ | 6/3/2011 | lwoodham

Posted on 06/03/2011 10:10:03 PM PDT by lwoodham

Alabama Passes Mandatory E-Verify & Immigration Enforcement Bill

Friday, June 3, 2011, 1:25 PM EDT

An Alabama House and Senate conference committee agreed on a new bill, which both chambers have already passed, that requires the use of E-Verify by all businesses in the state and includes several immigration enforcement provisions. Should Gov. Robert Bentley sign the bill into law, it would become one of the largest state crackdowns on illegal immigration in the country.

The bill requires all businesses, public and private, to begin using E-Verify effective April 1, 2012. Businesses that do not comply face suspension of its business license and loss of employee expensing for state income tax purposes. All state and local businesses must be in compliance by Jan. 1, 2012 or face loss of business license and contract.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; aliens; backgroundcheck; business; contract; employee; enforcement; everify; illegal; illegalaliens; immigration; license; private; public; senate; statesrights
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To: null and void

My rep supports it, but it’s the Dummycrat districts that won’t.


81 posted on 06/04/2011 12:19:05 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: kabar; Treeless Branch
Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

OK, but as it is, if they are caught they can just move from one job to another, or one state to another. And if e-verify was mandatory everywhere, and the feds punished "sanctuary cities," and they started taking illegal immigration seriously, why couldn't illegals use the matching names to satisfy e-verify? Wouldn't you need biometric IDs?

82 posted on 06/04/2011 12:19:24 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
And if e-verify was mandatory everywhere, and the feds punished "sanctuary cities," and they started taking illegal immigration seriously, why couldn't illegals use the matching names to satisfy e-verify? Wouldn't you need biometric IDs?

Per plan.

83 posted on 06/04/2011 12:43:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Carry_Okie

About “biometric IDs”:

There is a very justifiable concern that Big Brother will use such programs to encroach on our private lives and grab power. Remember when researchers outside the NSA developed encryption algorithms? Big Brother made carrying a laptop with 128 bit encryption outside the USA the crime of “exporting munitions.” AL Gore wanted the Clipper Chip required for providers of US equipment and software. As the Founding fathers knew, governments try to take away freedoms.

So what do you think is the solution for illegal aliens?


84 posted on 06/04/2011 1:17:57 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
There is a very justifiable concern that Big Brother will use such programs to encroach on our private lives and grab power.

When you combine these powers is when things get scary. Add the BIO-ID to the National Animal Identification System and you have ID + Tagging + Tracking. Toss in the mandated GPS in cell phones along with prisoner bracelets and you have ID + Tagging and Tracking + Location.

Are we nuts?

85 posted on 06/04/2011 1:55:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: lwoodham

86 posted on 06/04/2011 2:58:29 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Quilla

I pray Bentley signs this quickly as well.

Any idea what his stance is on it?

I’m truly amazed that our state legislature had the gonads to do this! I didn’t think it stood a chance.

Now if only they will get tough on abortion.....


87 posted on 06/04/2011 4:14:53 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Democratic Party - The party of genocide.)
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To: DariusBane

Compared to other business regulations, many of which are overburdensome, this is fairly easy. We all want benefits for illegals to stop, and that problem should also be addressed. To see that a businessman hires Americans is the kind of burden to which I don’t object.


88 posted on 06/04/2011 5:03:51 PM PDT by doug from upland (website reserved just in case: TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: lwoodham
Has not the Department of Homeland Security told Arizona (and South Carolina) that they will shut down the E-Verify system?

Presumably, Alabama's immigration laws will also be hamstrung.

89 posted on 06/04/2011 5:06:28 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
It really isn't a matter of getting caught. Employers will not reporting no matches to anyone. They just close the case. There is a photo matching component of E-Verify.

why couldn't illegals use the matching names to satisfy e-verify?

Matching names for stolen SSN's? Mulitiple use for valid SSN's?

Before an employer can create a case in E-Verify, both the employer and employee must complete the Employment Eligibility Verification form (Form I-9). All U.S. employers, regardless of whether they participate in E-Verify must complete Form I-9 no later than 3 business days after the employee begins work for pay. Information about the employee from Form I-9 then serves as the foundation for an E-Verify case, which must be created also no later than 3 business days after the employee begins work for pay.

E-Verify guides the employer through a series of questions, which follow Form I-9, beginning with the employee's citizenship attestation, document type(s), then biographical information including name, date of birth, Social Security number and Alien or I-94 number (if a noncitizen). In some cases, the document number and expiration date are also required.

If E-Verify cannot initially match the information, the employer will be prompted to review and correct the information if necessary. Otherwise, E-Verify will display an initial response within three to five seconds.

90 posted on 06/04/2011 5:31:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lwoodham

First thing Monday morning, Holder will sue them.


91 posted on 06/04/2011 5:34:27 PM PDT by Califreak (I heard Reagan is back and this time he's Jewish...)
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To: Carry_Okie
Yeah, that ol' Constitution thingy is a real problem for you and your would be police state. Maybe you should go back to one where you belong.

Go back to where I belong? I swore an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic several times in my life, i.e., service as a naval officer for 8 years including a year in Vietnam which included the Tet offensive and another 8 months off the coast and 28 years as a Foreign Service Officer including postings in Iran during the downfall of the Shah and the rise of Khomeini, in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War, and in Poland during martial law. I have literally put my life on the line for this country and you are telling me to go back where I belong? How dare you.

92 posted on 06/04/2011 5:46:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lwoodham

Something is getting done to mitigate the costs of this problems in some lucky States.


93 posted on 06/04/2011 5:48:44 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: okie01
Has not the Department of Homeland Security told Arizona (and South Carolina) that they will shut down the E-Verify system? Presumably, Alabama's immigration laws will also be hamstrung.

Will the administration fight this? Of course they will, but does that mean we should not take a stand for what's right for this country? By passing these laws now and by keeping our eye on the sparrow for 2012 to send another wave of bold conservative candidates to congress, we will be in a much stronger position even if Obama gets re-elected. By passing these laws now Alabama has marked their territory. Some illegals will leave just because of the bills passage and for each one that leaves a potential job position is freed up for legal residents. This is going to be an extremely hard fight but this is a step toward fairness to the American people.

94 posted on 06/04/2011 5:51:08 PM PDT by lwoodham
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
So what do you think is the solution for illegal aliens?

The solution is the same as it's always been. STOP illegal aliens from coming to our country. That means securing our borders and enforcing immigration laws. It can be done, but not while democrats and Rhino republicans are in power. The next election is so critical in every aspect of our society and our future as a nation. We need to ensure that only true conservatives get our votes. They need to be vetted and vetted again and forced to clearly state and document their conservative beliefs and stances before they are elected. If they evade or sidestep questions don't vote for them.

95 posted on 06/04/2011 6:16:50 PM PDT by lwoodham
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To: okie01
Has not the Department of Homeland Security told Arizona (and South Carolina) that they will shut down the E-Verify system?

The Supreme Court just upheld the 2007 AZ law that mandated businesses to use E-Verify.

A Win for Arizona, and the Rule of Law

96 posted on 06/04/2011 6:17:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: doug from upland

How about we put the burden where it belongs! On the F-ing Government!

This represents one of the few enumerated powers of the Constitution. They would rather tell me to wear my seatbelt, which is not an enumerated power than protect the borders. To hell with them!


97 posted on 06/04/2011 6:26:18 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: kabar
It really isn't a matter of getting caught. Employers will not reporting no matches to anyone. They just close the case.

Things would be different if DHS was interested in solving the problem. Haley vs. Napolitano on E-Verify and Illegal Immigration

There is a photo matching component of E-Verify. Intersesting. I don't think they took my picture when I got my SS card. Where do they get these photos?

98 posted on 06/04/2011 7:11:43 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: fwdude

You’re right..and they have been shifting about as various states enact laws which affect them...they are remarkably mobile. Many coming North now, not just in adjoinging states. ... and more are fast coming into PA. They will shift states as long as possible to buy time.


99 posted on 06/04/2011 7:49:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: EternalVigilance
E-Verify means every American will have to be in the government database, and every American will have to get clearance from a government bureaucrat to work.

I am very much for this, however EV it is a double edged sword in tracking ALL Americans. In time they will have all your information, down to what you eat and drink in one place.

100 posted on 06/04/2011 7:54:27 PM PDT by caww
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