Posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by kiryandil
You knew I had pocket rockets, right? How often have you seen me come up with something on The Ticker without a fairly-decent set of evidence behind what I had to say?
It's time to call the curtain on this game and then go back to economics.
Find me one typewriter in the world, anywhere, that can perform kerning and I will believe this "certificate" is real.
For the uninitiated, "kerning" is the process of manipulating the spacing of letters to make the appearance more pleasing. Here's an example from this Ticker itself:
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1595
This process, of course, requires that you know what the next letter is. With a computer this is pretty easy, since the computer can retroactively go back and adjust, and it also can typeset the current letter with knowledge of what the previous one was.
A typewriter, on the other hand, is a mechanical device. It does not know what the next letter is that you will type, nor does it know what the last letter was that you typed. It thus has a typeface that always leaves physical space between the boundary of each character and the impression. It has to, lest letters run together and look like utter crap.
Typesetters (offset printing machines and similar) perform kerning - in fact, it's part of typesetting. But typewriters do not, cannot, and never have.
This, of course, is why the typed Birth Certificate has kerned text in it.
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1598
Oh, and before you say "that's an artifact of what the White House did with their automated process", here's the same thing on the AP copy, which is a simple picture scanned in, with no post-processing of materiality I can detect and no layers.
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1597
Oh darn.
Incidentally this is not the only example, as I show in the video.
To refute this point you must come up with a typewriter that contains a flux capacitor and thus is capable of accurately predicting the future.
I'm sure there will be people who argue some sort of explanation (e.g. "sloppy carriage") for these results. But at the end of the day, here's the point: Exactly how many of these "explanations" have to line up in this way for everything to be on the up-and-up with this document? Each of these explanations that has been proffered - tab stops, damage to the background, the low number of layers from automated processing that just happen to all be on things that would be important to change if you were forging something, the appearance of kerning, misalignment of certain fields .vs. others and more - has a probability associated with it as random chance.
How many of these random probability events have to fall exactly the right way for the explanation that everything is on the up and up to be valid?
Remember, in 1961 nobody knew this person was anyone but a random half-black baby. There was absolutely nothing remarkable about him that would distinguish him from the other kids born in Hawaii - or anywhere else - that year. There was no reason for his birth certificate to be made any more "pretty" than any other kid's, or for any sort of special treatment. Nobody knew, absent a time machine, that this person would be President in 2008.
What are the odds, folks, that it would all line up as the Obama supports claim by simple random chance?
Now about that forensic analysis we should have done on the alleged document that allegedly is in the files at the Hawaii Registrar's office in order to see if it's really 50ish years old..... This is the only way we are going to get the truth. Will the American people, Congress, or someone (e.g. a judge) demand defensible truth on this topic? We damn well should.
(I think that's my pot in the center of the table. Would you help me push the rather-large pile of chips over here please?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85yVkL94_BU
PS: This is exactly how Dan Rather got caught - typography that was impossible to produce using the alleged tool the "document" was created with.
I’m mostly staying off these threads, because I think this is now like the JFK assassination: whatever the truth may be, I don’t think it matters. “They” won’t let the story be shaken. Neither party, no branch of government, and neither the feds, nor the states, really want to consider evidence that this is all a massive fraud. Which is not to say that is is a fraud. It just means that the final version of the story has been accepted, and further investigation into the matter will not be considered by the powers that be.
BTTT. Thanks for posting.
No theory was too crazy because they couldn't accept that reality did not agree with them.
Ahhh, the good old days...
I could see where Kerning would be impossible with an IBM Selectric, the one with the ball, but with the type writers with the hammers that struck each individual letter, it would depend on the speed of the typist.
I would think that the hammers would slam close together if someone could type 120 words a minute, overriding the movement of the carriage. My mom typed 120 WPM on one of those. I’ll have to see if there is anything around that she typed.
Tickerguy Flips is a misleading title.
And you thought the Killian Memos were real too, right?
Yep. I think you and I might have talked about this very thing. You could present videotaped evidence of the birth, with a Dated Honolulu newspaper plainly evident in the delivery room, and palm trees swaying in the breeze out the window.....
And there would be FReepers saying "Yeah, But....."
Sometimes, American People just don't want to know the truth. It'll come out, eventually, when it doesn't matter anymore.
I like Karl and read his blog daily but he doesn't title his blog posts in a manner that leads to them being posted on other sites.
Either way, people believe what they want to believe and nothing will shake them. And the official story is that he was born in Hawaii and I no longer see much point in anyone trying to say, "Yeah, but ..."
That document was a computer generated image. The only “copied” items were the signatures, everything else is generated by OCR software. It is made to look like some kind of photographic image, but it isn’t.
It also is wide open to manipulation and “updating” if the state sees fit.
In 1961, they would have been using a manual typewriter in a hospital that size.
bfl
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Typewriters relied on a mechanical cycle, the carriage movement coicided with the return of the hammer. If the next key is struck too soon, the hammers colide and stick. Happened to me all of the time in typing class. Part of typing fast was getting in sync with the cycle. So, there is no way for the second hammer to arrive before the carriage moved during the return of the first hammer.
The first IBM "Executive" Typewriter with proportional spacing, the Model A, was placed on the market shortly after World War II. . .
And I worked on one of their selectric / composer units in about 1972(it was an older unit) or so that produced near typeset quality, including kerning. It worked by your keying in the text, which was recorded on a mag card, and then played back with corrections and letterspacing and kerning applied. At least, that's how I remember it. Whether the Hawaii DOH had one of these units we don't know.
Now, that doesn't mean that the Regime hasn't produced a fraud here, only that the argument that typewriters did not kern is not accurate.
But, you will note that those that wanted to believe that they were true tried every stupid thing they could to come up with reasons they could be true. And to this day Mary Mapes insists that they've never been “proven false”.
Birthers are the flip side of this.
They are taking state certified documents with a long legal pedigree and custody trail and trying every stupid thing they can think of to claim that they are false. With many falling back on the argument that these documents have never been “proven true”.
It's inane.
I am looking forward to the next presidency not only for the hope of BHO leaving office, but for Birthers going away and we can get back to mocking the left for these kinds of shenanigans.
I’ve said before, Karl should stick to something he knows, which supposedly is economics.
I lost interest in Karl’s analysis when he mischaracterized the National Review layers experiment by pointing out that some of their letters had color artifacts while the specific letters of the Obama BC that he showed didn’t. But I found that the NR document also had a lot of letters that didn’t, and in fact saw it changed randomly between having the color shadows, and not having the shadows, which just showed it was part of the randomness of the scan processing.
In this latest “report”, Karl claims first that no “typewriter” can kern. But he doesn’t explain why he think the source document had to be reproduced on a standard typewriter, as opposed to say a teletype or printer. By the 60s, computers were coming into vogue, so even if you thought this was a print of an original BC in 1961, some of the form letters could have been printed out from a printer.
If the form was reproduced later, there were several IBM typewriters that had storage capability and did proportional fonts. This was discussed in the Rathergate scandal, when it was shown that the guy who supposedly wrote the documents didn’t have access to such a typewriter, and none of his other documents were typed on one.
At least here Karl makes it clear that there are two online sources for the document, which have the exact same underlying information, one of which has NO LAYERS.
So the conspiracy theorists have to explain why the Administration would take the time to do scan/overlays on their copy, but not change a single thing, so that it still matches the information on the AP non-layered version (or worse, why they would doctor the physical copy they then sent to the AP, but not just scan THAT copy for their own online version).
This is a conspiracy that has no explained point. None of the found “anomalies” can be explained as to how they advance a change in the document that serves a purpose. Changing the “r” in Barack doesn’t change anything; making dozens of changes to letters in the underlying FORM doesn’t change anything.
“They were obviously false “
So why would a supposedly typed 1961 ‘original’ be perfectly spaced when in 1961 it wasn’t happening?
And why would it also say the politically correct “African” for race when the law stated that “Negro” was what was used?
Remember, the recent ‘release’ has been claimed to be a scanned copy of an original.
That’s why I put it out there. I wasn’t sure. I do remember playing with my mom’s typewriter, but was only about five and no way could I really type.
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