I’m mostly staying off these threads, because I think this is now like the JFK assassination: whatever the truth may be, I don’t think it matters. “They” won’t let the story be shaken. Neither party, no branch of government, and neither the feds, nor the states, really want to consider evidence that this is all a massive fraud. Which is not to say that is is a fraud. It just means that the final version of the story has been accepted, and further investigation into the matter will not be considered by the powers that be.
BTTT. Thanks for posting.
No theory was too crazy because they couldn't accept that reality did not agree with them.
Ahhh, the good old days...
I could see where Kerning would be impossible with an IBM Selectric, the one with the ball, but with the type writers with the hammers that struck each individual letter, it would depend on the speed of the typist.
I would think that the hammers would slam close together if someone could type 120 words a minute, overriding the movement of the carriage. My mom typed 120 WPM on one of those. I’ll have to see if there is anything around that she typed.
Tickerguy Flips is a misleading title.
That document was a computer generated image. The only “copied” items were the signatures, everything else is generated by OCR software. It is made to look like some kind of photographic image, but it isn’t.
It also is wide open to manipulation and “updating” if the state sees fit.
In 1961, they would have been using a manual typewriter in a hospital that size.
bfl
The first IBM "Executive" Typewriter with proportional spacing, the Model A, was placed on the market shortly after World War II. . .
And I worked on one of their selectric / composer units in about 1972(it was an older unit) or so that produced near typeset quality, including kerning. It worked by your keying in the text, which was recorded on a mag card, and then played back with corrections and letterspacing and kerning applied. At least, that's how I remember it. Whether the Hawaii DOH had one of these units we don't know.
Now, that doesn't mean that the Regime hasn't produced a fraud here, only that the argument that typewriters did not kern is not accurate.
I’ve said before, Karl should stick to something he knows, which supposedly is economics.
I lost interest in Karl’s analysis when he mischaracterized the National Review layers experiment by pointing out that some of their letters had color artifacts while the specific letters of the Obama BC that he showed didn’t. But I found that the NR document also had a lot of letters that didn’t, and in fact saw it changed randomly between having the color shadows, and not having the shadows, which just showed it was part of the randomness of the scan processing.
In this latest “report”, Karl claims first that no “typewriter” can kern. But he doesn’t explain why he think the source document had to be reproduced on a standard typewriter, as opposed to say a teletype or printer. By the 60s, computers were coming into vogue, so even if you thought this was a print of an original BC in 1961, some of the form letters could have been printed out from a printer.
If the form was reproduced later, there were several IBM typewriters that had storage capability and did proportional fonts. This was discussed in the Rathergate scandal, when it was shown that the guy who supposedly wrote the documents didn’t have access to such a typewriter, and none of his other documents were typed on one.
At least here Karl makes it clear that there are two online sources for the document, which have the exact same underlying information, one of which has NO LAYERS.
So the conspiracy theorists have to explain why the Administration would take the time to do scan/overlays on their copy, but not change a single thing, so that it still matches the information on the AP non-layered version (or worse, why they would doctor the physical copy they then sent to the AP, but not just scan THAT copy for their own online version).
This is a conspiracy that has no explained point. None of the found “anomalies” can be explained as to how they advance a change in the document that serves a purpose. Changing the “r” in Barack doesn’t change anything; making dozens of changes to letters in the underlying FORM doesn’t change anything.
I’m glad nobody made me prove that the document Maryland had which said I was born was not altered in some way before they let me be a citizen and get a passport and a job that required my birth certificate.
Once we “prove” that there is an original document in HI, won’t we now have to prove that the people who put the information onto that document didn’t lie about what they put there?
Which is the funny part — most of the information on a BC isn’t the result of an FBI investigation; they simply ask the parent for the information, and write it down.
So the source of the information (father’s citizenship, occupations, home address, spelling of names) is just some minor teenager’s recollections to the secretary filling out the form.
An IBM Selectric (any model) CAN NOT do kerning.
An IBM Executive Typewriter (models A , B, C or D) CAN DO kerning.
An IBM Selectric (any model) CAN NOT do kerning.
An IBM Executive Typewriter (models A , B, C or D) CAN DO kerning.
But when I looked at a JPEG of the PDF posted on Wikipedia, the alignment was different than either of his two versions that he had clipped out and shown.
So somehow taking a picture of the pdf changed the alignment.
I think part of the problem is looking at PDFs at 1000% magnification.
This guy is clearly a racist.
If anyone is going to make this case with the kerning, it needs to be slam-dunk, and proven every which way before anyone is going to pay attention.
As evidence of kerning, this guy points to the first lowercase ‘a’ in “Kapiolani” invading the space of the lowercase ‘p,’ which is immediately to the right of the ‘a.’ Likewise, he points to the lowercase ‘t’ in “University” invading the space of the lowercase ‘y,’ which is immediately to the right of the ‘t.’
And he’s correct. But how does he explain the fact that the same evidence of “kerning” is found all throughout Susan Nordyke’s long form birth certificate?
(See for yourself: http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/this-is-a-hawaii-birth-certificate/)
Ah ha! The Nordyke twins LFBCs must also be computer-generated forgeries! /s
Karl, you’re great...
I’m sure there will be people who argue some sort of explanation (e.g. “sloppy carriage”) for these results. But at the end of the day, here’s the point: Exactly how many of these “explanations” have to line up in this way for everything to be on the up-and-up with this document? Each of these explanations that has been proffered - tab stops, damage to the background, the low number of layers from automated processing that just happen to all be on things that would be important to change if you were forging something, the appearance of kerning, misalignment of certain fields .vs. others and more - has a probability associated with it as random chance.
How many of these random probability events have to fall exactly the right way for the explanation that everything is on the up and up to be valid?
Remember, in 1961 nobody knew this person was anyone but a random half-black baby. There was absolutely nothing remarkable about him that would distinguish him from the other kids born in Hawaii - or anywhere else - that year. There was no reason for his birth certificate to be made any more “pretty” than any other kid’s, or for any sort of special treatment. Nobody knew, absent a time machine, that this person would be President in 2008.
What are the odds, folks, that it would all line up as the Obama supports claim by simple random chance?
As the saying goes, "What matters is not what is true or false, but what is believed."
The State of Hawaii has vouched for the document and its provenance. Why would it do so? And why couldn't a clean copy have been made, rather than this horrible PDF which clearly is made up of separate parts, parts that show technical anomalies and anachronisms?
Be it as it may, the Kenyan usurper has admitted to Kenyan citizenship, and indeed, this dubious document vouches for such dual citizenship. That puts a cloud over his claim of natural born citizenship. That cloud must be cleared, and it can only be done by the production of all passports and visas; clearly, it would be best if a cleaner copy of the natal records could be found, but it appears to me that we won't get anything better than this highly dubious PDF.
