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Army Doc: Deployment Orders Illegal Without Pres. Obama's Birth Records
7NEWS ^ | December 14, 2010 | Deb Stanley,

Posted on 12/14/2010 6:12:11 AM PST by george76

FORT MEADE, Md. -- A military court was set to hear the case Tuesday of an Army doctor charged with refusing to deploy to Afghanistan because he says he doubts whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and therefore questions his eligibility to be commander in chief.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, an 18-year Army veteran from Greeley, disobeyed orders to report earlier this year to Fort Campbell in Kentucky to prepare for deployment, saying he believed the orders were illegal.

In videos posted on YouTube, Lakin aligned himself with so-called "birthers" who question whether Obama is a natural-born citizen as the U.S. Constitution requires for presidents.

Lakin said in the videos that any reasonable person looking at available evidence would have questions about Obama's eligibility to be president and that he had "no choice" but to disobey orders. Lakin said he would "gladly deploy" if Obama's original birth certificate were released and proved authentic.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bannanarepublic; barack; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; eligibility; illegalorder; injustice; kangaroocourt; lakin; longform; msm; naturalborncitizen; nwo; obama; obamabirthtruthers; soros; spookydude; terrencelakin
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To: tricksy

Nope, he’s a surgeon, and from my experience with the military, that makes him a very smart man. I don’t see him as a barracks lawyer, because his experience was too great.

I see him more as a true believer who allowed himself to overlook some important mistakes in reasoning.


21 posted on 12/14/2010 7:48:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: PA-RIVER

Why would Obama use a Hawaii statute preventing identity theft to seal his Hawaii records?

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=79174


22 posted on 12/14/2010 7:49:47 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: george76

Drudge is linked to this story.


23 posted on 12/14/2010 7:51:53 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: george76
Same question as after the election, What is Obama hiding and Why?
24 posted on 12/14/2010 7:53:53 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: tricksy

The order to deploy is directly linked to Obama’s surge in Afghanistan, inshort Obama ordered his deployment and every officer in the chain of command above LtCol Lankin carried out Obama’s orders without questioning his authority to issue them.

Obama can at any time prove he has the complete legal authority as a Natural Born Citizen by producing his original Birth Certificate, in which case LtCol Lankin will still be convicted of disobey a lawful order. That Obama refuses to produce undeniable proof that he is eligible for the office he holds is enough to question weather he can legally order troops into battle.


25 posted on 12/14/2010 8:04:52 AM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
It's willing to hear all the relevant evidence that Lakin is willing to present.

Doesn't that put you at odds with the judge, who is not allowing Lakin to present all of the evidence in the case? In particular, he is not compelling Obama to provide the proof.

IIRC, the judge is not allowing Lakin to tell the court (and the jury) the reason he decided to disobey orders (the unreleased birth certificate).

26 posted on 12/14/2010 8:20:50 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Not when the judge has barred you from presenting any evidence that might exonerate you.


27 posted on 12/14/2010 8:24:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: PA-RIVER
Hawaii law has long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

And the HDH has defined "tangible interest" so narrowly that NO ONE is able to obtain a copy. National security isn't enough, ensuring the president is constitutionally eligible is not enough, hell, there is literally NOTHING that would meet their definition.

28 posted on 12/14/2010 8:28:14 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Same question as after the election, What is Obama hiding and Why?

Americans wait for the MSM and a corrupt to core government to tell them the truth. The MSM is composed of some of the biggest fools in history and America is held hostage by these idiots.

Obama was elected by the MSM as they failed to reveal the truth about this clown. BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Like the Lt. Col. who has the intestinal fortitude to bring this question to a place they have to at least address it, I believe Obama is a lying scumbag SOB who thinks he will get away with his scam. IMHO, it's obvious to anyone with an IQ even approaching room temperature that Obama is not eligible to be POTUS.

This is just a start to the process of America seeing this emperor exposed without clothes.

29 posted on 12/14/2010 8:29:28 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: Non-Sequitur; PA-RIVER
Once again you demonstrate you are willing to lie, deceive, misrepresent and in general muddy up the waters in defense of your Obamamessiah.

You write, “It's [the military court is] willing to hear all the relevant evidence that Lakin is willing to present.

That's bullshit!

Military Judge, Denise Lind, has ruled that Lakin will not be able to present any witnesses or documents for his defense and will not be able to explain his reason for disobeying orders at the court-martial.

That's a damned kangaroo-court, by anybody’s definition.

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6890

30 posted on 12/14/2010 8:33:25 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: P-Marlowe

And that is the fatal error of the judge and the grounds for appeal.


31 posted on 12/14/2010 8:33:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: xzins; MrB

Yep. His challenge would have been thrown in the trash before he even left the room.


32 posted on 12/14/2010 8:39:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: usmcobra

BO’s bith certificate will not solve the riddle-no one disputes that his father was not ever an american citizen, therefore, even if BO was born on the steps of the capitol itself, he would not, under consitutional requirement and basic citizenship law, be a nautral born US citizen.

BOTH parents are required to be US citizens in order for a child to be a “natural born” citizen.


33 posted on 12/14/2010 8:41:01 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant.

I wonder $5000 could convince his half brother or one of Obama's cousins to get a copy?

34 posted on 12/14/2010 8:44:49 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: xzins
Re: “...he STILL is not getting results...”

You could not be more incorrect.

Google returns 183,000 results based on a search of “Lt. Col. Lakin”

http://www.google.com/search?q=Lt.+Col.+Lakin&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&tbs=

Col. Lakin and his council knew going in that the military court martial was only the first battle, and that they would probably lose.

The appellate process is where this battle will be won or lost.

And the drip, drip, drip will continue to damage Obama, who will be even more damaged if he puts this career military man in Leavenworth because he won't release his bona fides to the American people, who have a right to know, and a need to know who Obama is, where he comes from, and who sent him.

35 posted on 12/14/2010 8:49:01 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I wonder $5000 could convince his half brother or one of Obama's cousins to get a copy?

How about half-brother George who was living in a $1-a-month hovel.

He could get some more pot money and stick it to Obama, who has never done anying to help him, or the rest of his Kenyan family, at the same time.

36 posted on 12/14/2010 8:56:46 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: usmcobra
inshort Obama ordered his deployment and every officer in the chain of command above LtCol Lankin carried out Obama’s orders without questioning his authority to issue them.

This is why I tell people that the military won't be on our side.

37 posted on 12/14/2010 8:58:53 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Frantzie

Unfortunately for Lt. Col. Lakin, his case is a loser and he’s sooo screwed.

He doesn’t have the standing to question Dear Leader’s credentials, and neither do we.

This was the job of the Electoral College, and Vice President Cheney, who IMHO fell down on the job. The VP was the last line of defense and he had every right to demand Zero’s long form. He did not.

As such, I don’t think that we can get Zero out of office at this time. In the next election cycle if some state has the balls to enact a statute demanding that such forms be provided in certified form we may know the truth. Or if some elector in the EC chooses to demand such proof.

But, right now Lt Col. Lakin is going to the stockade for not following orders, because Zero IS the President.


38 posted on 12/14/2010 8:58:53 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: xzins

Did Ltc Lakin have questions? Yep. But, was the order delivered through the chain that he otherwise responds to with obedience? Yes.

The proper avenue would have been to obey the deployment orders while registering a challenge.


Not a lawyer nor know the UMCJ in detail. But I agree that the LTC should have followed orders up to boarding the transport to Afghanistan. Then he may have some basis to make his claims. But as it stands now he’s basically being charged with failure to report as ordered to stations prior to deployment. JMO and it maybe all wrong.


39 posted on 12/14/2010 9:03:51 AM PST by deport
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To: Beckwith
Judge Lind may well live on in history as the Judge who put a man in prison without affording him a proper trial.

This doesn't end here with this trial and conviction. This is the beginning. Judge Lind might be wise to hire council after this “trial” is over.

40 posted on 12/14/2010 9:11:54 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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