Posted on 11/21/2010 11:31:21 PM PST by TigersEye
Sliding silently under the mud, muck and fog of national politics, is a current event that makes Bill Clinton’s excursion into the world of elderly sex look tame in comparison. This time the nation’s national security is truly threatened in my opinion, and it involves not only a weak president with limited problem-solving ability, but leadership at the highest levels in the Pentagon as well. The American people would do well to demand a full investigation by an unbiased group, and let the chips fall where they may.
I am referring to the “missile shot” taken off the California coast recently, and the lame response by NORAD, the Pentagon and the White House itself.
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In my opinion, there is absolutely no doubt that what was captured on video off the coast of California was a missile launch, was clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star general within minutes, and passed to the president immediately. That is the way the system works, and heads fall if there is a failure. This is one of the most important tenets of national defense and its sole purpose of protecting the American people. Even the smallest failure in this system gets intense scrutiny at the highest level.
Now, the question that still must be answered is why NORAD’s muted response was simply that North America was not threatened, and later our government approved the lame excuse that the picture recorded was simply an aircraft leaving a contrail. This decision was made far above the four-star level, and because the system in place demands it, was made by the president himself.
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Actually, it’s a Saturn.
So, let’s say the fact that it’s a Saturn (or an Atlas or Titan ICBM, odd that you would object to relatively small rockets in the same rough role) makes it poor evidence. There still is nothing...NOTHING...in the picture you posted that indicates a stage separation.
So, to use your metaphor, at worst I have compared an orange to an anchor.
And just to review...no photos, video or eyewitness accounts of a stage separation. And we still have the matter of the guy photographing an SLBM with a $900 Nikon 5 minutes after launch.
I'm a pilot too...but my eyes aren't THAT good!...:oP
While we’re talking optics, how did a guy manage to photgraph this SLBM five minutes after launch with a $900 Nikon and no telephoto gear?
Keep in mind that at that point the SLBM would be in outer space.
No such thing, and that wasn't what I said. The Royal Navy was putting forth the Chinook as a "best" dipping sonar platform, and this was in relation to RN deciding on/if buying a new ASW platform. Of course, the Royal Navy never had much money for anything in later years. So the RN, I expect, just stuck with the English close similar to Chinook, the Westland-something-something.
Airliners.net and chemtrail central doesn't strike me as really good sources of information.
Lol. You’re flailing, Silver ;).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAZLYn44FeQ
Right at the beginning of the vid, you can see the remnants of an earlier airliner contrail on the same flight path. Only a short segment is still visible, but it’s there, parallel to the later one.
Yes they do have them. The second sentence in your post is the telltale.
Those are rockets that are not guided and are aimed by the angle and pointing direction of the launcher. The rocket is fired and spins to help maintain the direction it was pointed, just like a bullet in a rifle.
These things just fly until the motor burns out and fall wherever they are going to fall. No guidance and no course corrections. Single motors with single nozzles and no thrust vectoring capabilities. Just throwing a BIG grenade.
http://ltc8k6.contrailsandchemtrails22884.yuku.com/
Geez. “Under a beautiful chemtrailed sky US”?? Are you for real?
Did you flee that place to land on FR immediately after?
And “Assistant to the Devil himself”???
:).
So. What may the Iranians have now (domestic, imported) that might be capable of a torpedo tube launch?
You are the man with all the evidence and I'm the shill for the evil planeloader conspiracy. So prove me wrong. Show me.
Oh, and while you're at it, show me how a guy with a $900 Nikon can photograph an SLBM five minutes after launch when it should be in outer space.
Airliners.net and chemtrail central doesn't strike me as really good sources of information.
This is why I have come to doubt your veracity. Not the veracity of other pro-missile posters, just you.
Airliners.net is one of the premier aircraft photo sites on the web. There is no reason at all to denigrate it as a source. If it's such a crappy source, show me a photo of an RN Chinook...surely the Brits tooksome photos while they were testing it. Plus, the fact that you keep referring to Contrail Science as a chemtrail site (implying that the people who operate it believe in kooky chemtrail theory when in fact they specialize in debunking it) indicates that you have either not read the evidence presented there or you have so little regard for those disagreeing with you that you are comfortable portraying them as something they aren't. The evidence that is presented there matches this bird up with UPS Flight 902's flight path in a way that is conclusive. Debunk it if you can, but even if the author were a chemtrail kook his evidence appears to add up and you appear to be unwilling to address it.
Cite your source for the RN evaluating the Chinook as an ASW platform. And BTW, Sweden uses the Chinook in the ASW role, so I'm not saying it's impossible. But your theory here depends on a USN helo that would be the only ASW Chinook in a Navy that has hundreds of Seahawks, a helo that most observers of the video have identified as a Huey anyway.
So, we "planeloaders" are talking about real data, and you're depending on a secret helo project and the photo equivalent of hearing backwards messages from Satan on a Led Zeppelin song.
In fact, the best thing you can do for the missile crowd is go take up quilting, because you're making your fellows look like a bag of nuts.
That board just moved, no one fled.
http://www.contrails-and-chemtrails.com/index.php
As I’ve said before, I have been battling chemtrailers for a very long time. That’s why I always have ammo handy for claims about contrails.
OK, so that’s two USAF generals speaking out and I knew both of them.
Jimmy Cash is a fighter pilot’s fighter pilot and probably saw a few contrails and missile launches in his lifetime. You can always tell a figher pilot! (you just can’t tell him much)
From what I know that is a bit dated, and not classified, they only have an older Soviet style missile capable of submarine launch but have no subs to launch them.
These would be vertical launched and not from torpedo tubes.
“What may the Iranians have now (domestic, imported) that might be capable of a torpedo tube launch”
What did the Japanes military think the Americans had to launch an air raid on the Japanese mainland when Jimmy Doolittle did it?
I think low tech may be the new high tech when it comes to terrorist WMD deployment ingenuity. These were the guys who turned airliners into guided missiles and took down the WTC and almost 1/5 of the Pentagon..
Think of some civilian vessel, like a cargo ship or barge conversion or adaptation? Or a one-way mission to paradise for mini-sub crew? We still don’t know (publicly) how the Nk’s sunk that South Korean wessel - or why - do we?
Got it. Thanks.
Lol. I've seen some here refer to it as a Cessna. Flying backwards, no doubt. But I never saw anyone refer to it as a huey.
Go look for yourself, Silver. The RN stuff is all over google. Are you that incompetent?
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