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Karl Rove's Flameout
Daily Beast via Yahoo News ^ | 10/22/10 | Matt Latimer

Posted on 10/22/2010 9:09:58 AM PDT by Enchante

In primaries this year, Republican voters in Alaska, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Nevada, and Utah, have rejected—en masse—the candidates preferred by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which Rove is said to informally advise. The Conservative Party candidate Tom Tancredo—a known enemy of Rove—is trouncing the GOP-backed candidate in the race for governor of Colorado.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Colorado; US: Delaware; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Nevada; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2010election; 2012; alaska; amnesty; bush; co2010; colorado; conservatives; delaware; florida; karlrove; kentucky; magnificentbastard; mccain; nevada; nrsc; palin; republicans; rino; rnc; rove; steele; tancredo; teaparty; teapartyexpress; tomtancredo; utah
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To: GregH

You just don’t get it...

Here is a quote for you: “We had to abandon the principles of the free market to save the free market!”

Our country is absolutely not better off because of George Bush he will most certainly go down in history as one of the worst Presidents this country has ever had.

Are you completely out of touch with reality? Look around...maybe Obozo is so bad you think Bush is better than this...but it is a FACT that Bush helped and deliberately so...to destroy our Republic and move us to the Progressive goal of globalization.

George Bush is not a conservative not at all his reckless spending record and the debacle of 2006 is absolute proof that he sucked as a President and now EVERY single FREEPER and AMERICAN is hurting because of his actions.

Again since you seriously don’t have a clue...I am not blaming O’Donnell’s situation soley on Rove...but he has deliberately damaged her chances. That’s a fact.

Yeah Soro’s is spending millions too...doesn’t make him a good guy. Rove is not doing anything to restore America he is trying to keep the Progressive agenda live and well with the establishment...think about it for a second...Bush then McCain...really...really these are the best the GOP can do!


61 posted on 10/22/2010 8:02:18 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

It is so easy to crticise someone on hindsight but GWB had to deal with the reality then and his Presidency is mixed.

GWB did give America 2 sold supreme court justices and this has helped in somewhat stopping obama’s destructive agenda.

Look it so easy for you to vent hate against GWB but think rationally and you can see some goodness in his presidency.

Rove post primary comments are way too overrated and Christine O Donnell personal failures are the main reasons overwhelmingly for her lousy polls.

Rove’s Crossroads has spent millions on crucial seats this election and this has proved immensely helpful in getting conservatives elected.

Try to think logically and to compare Soros with Rove is just dumb and ridiculous.


62 posted on 10/22/2010 8:29:54 PM PDT by GregH
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To: GregH
There is a big difference between rationalizing and thinking rationally.

You are rationalizing. If Bush had really done his service for this country we wouldn't have Obama today - PERIOD. Obama’s election is the final verdict on Bush.

What about John Bolton, Rumsfeld, etc...??? Seriously Bush screwed up big time and so did the GOP - they sold this country down the road with their insane big government approach and spending.

63 posted on 10/23/2010 6:04:10 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Enchante

Earth to Rove — Return to planet. Time to tell Maes to step down. Where are you, Rove? Are you a conservative or a fifth columnist?

Karl Rove calls Colorado’s gubernatorial race “the weirdest thing [ Thu., Sep. 30 2010]
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/09/karl_rove_calls_colorados_gubernatorial_race_the_weirdest_thing_—_and_hes_right.php
“Karl Rove has spent much of the last week in Colorado: stumping for candidates, pontificating in Aspen ...” [snip]

Magellan Strategies Poll, Colorado Governor: Hickenlooper 44%, Tancredo 43%, Maes 9%
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2612699/posts
[That sour grapes RNC ticket splitter needs to GET OUT or be exposed as a 5th columnist.]


64 posted on 10/23/2010 9:06:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform without education reform and originalism is a penny in the fuse box.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Karl Rove and Hugh Hewitt are going to be in Colorado October 29, and I’m hoping they don’t trash Tancredo. I wish they would both openly support him, but I doubt either will. The best we can probably hope for is for them to not say anything at all concerning the Gubernatorial race, or maybe only criticizing Hickenlooper without mentioning Tancredo or Maes. If they say anything negative about Tancredo, or show any support whatsoever towards Maes or Hickenlooper I’m done with them forever. I’m hoping they do what they know is right and endorse Tom Tancredo while denouncing both Maes and Hickenlooper, but that’s just wishful thinking.

You can contact Karl Rove here -—> http://www.rove.com/contact

You can contact Hugh Hewitt here -—> hhewitt@hughhewitt.com

http://www.tancredoforgovernor2010.org/

http://buckforcolorado.com/

65 posted on 10/24/2010 1:10:23 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Coloradans Vote for Tom Tancredo for Colorado Governor, and Ken Buck for U.S. Senate !!!)
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To: scory

I have never understood why this man or others in his line of work are considered to be politcal geniuses. I have listened to him and to Dick Morris or James
Carville and some others who have run or been closely involved in political matters and I don’t hear any great insights or understanding that I can’t find on these threads most days of the week.


I’ve noticed the same.


66 posted on 10/24/2010 1:19:13 AM PDT by chasio649 (I can see November 2 from my house)
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To: A.Hun

‘I assume that would apply to Freepers viciously attacking RINO winners of primaries? The double standard here is sick.’

Karl Rove is a professional Republican politician. His job involves working to nominate the best possible GOP candidates in his opinion, and then FIGHT for any candidates nominated by the Republican voters (assuming that they aren’t David Dukes). He failed at his job.

We are amateur conservative activists. Our job is to nominate the best conservative candidates available. After the primaries our job is to FIGHT for these conservative candidates in the general election. Should a non-conservative get the nomination, we have to decide if they are sufficiently acceptable, in the circumstances, to support or even vote for.

We are doing our job, he screwed up his job.


67 posted on 10/24/2010 1:28:18 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: A.Hun

We are NOT a Republican forum, we are a conservative forum. We should support Republicans when we consider that Republican to be better for the country and the conservative movement than any other alternatives. If he isn’t better then we should oppose or ignore him as circumstances require. That course is inappropriate for a professional republican operative.


68 posted on 10/24/2010 1:36:46 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Karl Rove is a professional Republican politician. His job involves working to nominate the best possible GOP candidates in his opinion, and then FIGHT for any candidates nominated by the Republican voters (assuming that they aren’t David Dukes). He failed at his job.

He is currently a private citizen. He is not employed by a Republican entity as far as I know. He has no duty to FIGHT for anyone. It certainly isn't his "job". He screwed up and let his true concerns about O'Donnell out in public. BFD. He still has helped more Republicans get elected than any other person in the country.

we have to decide if they are sufficiently acceptable, in the circumstances,to support or even vote for.

Sure, if they're not conservative enough you help the Democrat be elected. Great strategy!

I still think its two-faced for freepers to trash Rove because he criticized a nominated Republican when they turn around and trash nominated Republicans for whatever reason.

They like O'Donnell and are po because Rove said bad things about her...being the nominated candidate doesn't really have anything to do with it.

69 posted on 10/24/2010 4:42:24 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
We are NOT a Republican forum, we are a conservative forum.

Unfortunately, we have become a libertarian forum...when I signed up we were a conservative forum.

We should support Republicans when we consider that Republican to be better for the country and the conservative movement than any other alternatives.

I would be happy with just voting the Democrats out of office. That means voting for the nominated Republican whether you like them or not. If an independent is the strong horse (aka Tancredo) vote for them. Vote for the one that will DEFEAT the DEMOCRAT.

The time for preening and posturing is over unless you like Obama and the Dems in control.

70 posted on 10/24/2010 4:52:29 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

‘He is currently a private citizen’

I said he was a professional Republican politician. Like any professional he retains his profession whether or not he has a client. if a lawyer does not have a client and robs a bank, he loses his profession. If a doctor cuts of the wrong organ he will lose his profession. If a professional Republican politicians goes around attacking Republican candidates for office, he will lose his profession.

Freepers who are not even Republicans have no such professional obligation.


71 posted on 10/24/2010 6:25:42 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: A.Hun

‘Vote for the one that will DEFEAT the DEMOCRAT.’

In Delaware, after the primary, only O’Donnell stood any chance of defeating the Democrat. If Rove did not realize ‘the time for preening and posturing is over unless you like Obama and the Dems in control’, why should we?


72 posted on 10/24/2010 6:31:16 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: surfer

Just as soon as Bush’s election in 2000 was secure, Bush should have arranged for Rove to go hunting with the vice-president.


73 posted on 10/24/2010 6:47:03 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Like I said, I think it was a mistake on his part.

In his defense, he knew she didn't have a snowballs chance of winning anyway. Our side's chance to control the Senate ended with her nomination (its pretty evident now, but I hope she will pull off an upset).

If Rove did not realize ‘the time for preening and posturing is over unless you like Obama and the Dems in control’, why should we?

Because he was wrong, is it OK for freepers to make the same mistake?

Regardless, he still should have kept his comments to himself. That's my advice to freepers in the same situation (once the nominations are over) and has been for almost six years.

But please, don't argue that Rove is a POS because he didn't support the Republican nominee. That's just silly on FR. Be honest and say that he's a POS because he said something bad about your candidate.

74 posted on 10/24/2010 7:01:53 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

He has a responsibility to support all Republicans. We do not. It is like complaining that a fireman isn’t good at surgery.


75 posted on 10/24/2010 7:18:44 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
He has a responsibility to support all Republicans.

I think at this stage, we all have the responsibility to support all Republicans if we want to defeat the Democrats (exception for Tancredo).

It's a double standard to require it of Rove but not other "conservatives". Period.

76 posted on 10/24/2010 8:02:53 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Cicero
You don’t undermine the winning candidate AFTER she has won the primary—which Rove and many other insiders did— unless you have purely selfish reasons

Exactly.


77 posted on 10/24/2010 8:23:57 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: A.Hun

‘I think at this stage, we all have the responsibility to support all Republicans if we want to defeat the Democrats (exception for Tancredo).’

In general you’re correct, but of this group ONLY Rove has a PROFESSIONAL responsibility to do so.


78 posted on 10/24/2010 8:38:45 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Nonstatist

“The fat RINO is still usefull; his Crossroads organization has raised a lot of money to help the Republicans get candidates elected in the midterms. The Republican Party could potentially be useful as well in stopping Obozo’s agenda from moving through Congress.”

You nailed it. But what he did to Christine is so typical of the Rino mice.


79 posted on 10/24/2010 8:41:31 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
ONLY Rove has a PROFESSIONAL responsibility to do so.

I disagree. He's as much a private citizen as you are. He's not employed by the Republicans and he sure isn't on the Tea Party Express' payroll. If he was, it would be different. I'd support firing him because he would have had a professional responsibility to the Repubs or TPE. As it is, he's a free agent like any other conservative, only higher profile.

80 posted on 10/24/2010 9:34:47 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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