Posted on 05/10/2010 7:18:43 PM PDT by pissant
Chris Nelson, who's retiring after two terms as South Dakota's secretary of state to challenge Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), gets asked by Kevin Woster whether he believes President Obama is a citizen of the United States. Nelson doesn't know.
[M]eeting the constitutional qualifications to be President is a very important issue. If President Obama isnt constitutionally qualified, it would be the biggest scam ever perpetuated on the American people. MANY people contacted me as Secretary of State prior to and after the election asking how Obama could be on our ballot given this controversy. Absent a court finding that he isnt a natural born citizen, we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.
Of course, most people have taken "at face value" Obama's certification of live birth from Hawaii, released by the campaign in 2008, as proof of where he was born. Interestingly, Nelson's less-well-established primary challengers don't take the bait, and blow off the question.
(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...
The American People need to see the noise (Ex 20:18).
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Exodus 20:18-20
18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.
20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.
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Pelosi: Could someone please explain to me how in the world could Pelosi sign such a legal document in which she verifies that Obama is "legally qualified" without first personally seeing and touching Obama's long form birth certificate?
However, if Pelosi HAS seen Obama's long form Hawaii birth certificate, then it means that (1) Obama has forfeited his right to hide behind legal privacy laws and that (2)the long form birth certificate should be released to the rest of us and the media so that we too can examine it like Pelosi has.
But if Pelosi is lying by putting her signature on the Hawaii document, then her illegal action should be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Yep. But who is going to ask her?
How exactly does the thusfar un-disproven conjecture that B. Hussein Obama does not meet the basic qualifications for president as established by in the U.S. Constitution give "ammunition to our enemies?" ... because they say so? ... or because Michael Medved and many other conservative talk show hosts are scared to silence to discuss it? ... or because the courts are paralyzed with fear to even consider it?
In view of what the Left is doing to this country I truly do not understand why exactly it is a "pointless distraction" to pursue this (and it can be prosecuted concurrent with our patriotic duty to crush the Socialist Democrats in November). Please explain why you think this is so, my friend?
Could not have said it better, Hank.
This has got to start moving faster. The statute of limitations started running the day zebam lied on the document he signed and swore to in order to get the COLB we have all been scammed with. By next election day, the statute of limitations will have run out and he is home free if he does not run for office again.
I have no doubt Hawaii issued it, but it was issued on an affidavit HE filled out and swore to. HE gave them the info on his own birth, his own name, his own everything, except MAYBE the date of his birth. Hawaii accepts selfsworn documents.
False swearing being only ONE of the charges that needs to be filed against this fraud.
Ah, a fact check video. Thank you!
Horse pucky. If he doubted the qualifications of The One, he could have gotten a court order for the State of Hawaii to produce the birth certificate. Or better yet, he could have ruled on his own that Obama was not a natural born citizen. Then let the Obummer campaign take him to court. Eventually forcing the Supreme Court to rule. The BC could be just a part of a case.
Hank, remember when the human race thought the world was flat? Can you imagine what sort of treatment ensued when someone said it was round? I don’t have to tell you what happened and just look at the rewards! It isn’t the “rounders” that look silly now.
There are two ways to get that bastard and everyone who enabled him plus reverse their nation-destroying legislation. #1. Prove he’s a fraud / not eligible for more than one reason, come up with such strong evidence that someone with standing will cooperate. You can stay on the sidelines and not do a thing to help and you will enjoy the rewards without the risk should any birthers succeed. #2. Use force and there won’t be any sidelines.
Keeping one’s eye on “the prize” of voting them out as the ONLY strategy may backfire badly and lead to the only option being #2 above. Where do you think all this is going if the election doesn’t happen? Voting them all out, btw, won’t get us out of some very repugnant commitments BO has gotten us into - at the U.N. for instance. How about 20 to 30 years of his SCOTUS appointments? Without eligibility, his signature is no good; his commitments on our behalf are null and void.
Oh, and there’s one more thing - a very important thing. The constitution has requirements that need to be met by a candidate for the presidency, the most powerful position in the world. Ignoring the fact that a bunch of traitors - an entire political party in fact - crapped all over that document is a very bad precedent and should not stand.
No one is asking you to be a birther, but you feel the need come and ridicule those who are. That’s a pretty flat-footed behavior on your part.
P.S. Most “birthers” are not one horse ponies. They are obsessed with getting their country back and will even multi-task to win!
HOW CAN YOU CALL IT A FACTCHECK VIDEO?
The title:
Certification Was Not Issued by Hawaii
Don't you think that, or proof of the same thing, might just an influence on the following election, even for dogcatcher?
Yawn.... so did you ever find out what BTTT means?
Back to the top...
A person can’t be the witness of their own birth.
At least where the law means anything. Sigh.
You’re right though. We’ve got to get some charges filed soon.
Seems each state should have the right to question, question, question.
I still suspect that Arkansas mis-dated theirs on purpose. Somehow thinking that would maybe be Daniel’s way out when it hits the fan. In fact the Arkansas “certification” says nothing about anything except that he signed the Democratic pledge and paid the filing fees.
http://romanticpoet.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/dnc-failed-to-certify-obama-as-eligible-in-most-states/
No, but he can update info such as his race, and even change his name if it was Soetoro to his original name if it was obama.
You should know better than anyone that Hawaii has a LOT of “strange” regulations regarding legal documents like COLBs.
And they added a Law that forbids the documents belonging to deceased people from becoming public...like “snips of paper found in Bibles.”
THAT is actually clarified in the law. So any evidence found after his grandmother died was immediately sealed as well.
Thanks for the images of the DNC cert papers. I decided to include them on the WAPO site with my comments:
Just to address the problem in SOS Nelson’s statement “we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.”
Apparently he didn’t read the certification sent him by the DNC since it did not include ANY statement regarding the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama.
http://americangrandjury.org/public/images/image018.jpg
Perhaps he saw the certification sent only to the state of HI which (as Hi law requires) did include a statement of eligibility.
http://americangrandjury.org/public/images/image020.jpg
Why wouldn’t the DNC send a certification including eligibility qualifications to all 50 states?
As far as the “Natural born citizen” Constitutional requirement for no one else but the POTUS and VPOTUS, it means born of PARENTS who are citizens. Any other definition is in direct conflict with the intent of the drafters of the Constitution who used Vattel’s “Law of Nations” treatise (which included that definition) to formulate much of the basis of our Constitutional Republic.
The only reason a certified long form birth certificate (not the fraudulent “Certificate of live birth”) is relevant is it would be documentary prima facia legal evidence to verify the parentage of Barack Obama.
Since by Obama’s own admission he was a dual citizen at birth, he can in no way be considered a “Natural born citizen” and has in fact perpetrated the biggest fraud in history on the American people.
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