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Carbs against Cardio: More Evidence that Refined Carbohydrates, not Fats, Threaten the Heart
Scientific American Magazine ^ | May 2010 | Melinda Wenner Moyer

Posted on 04/29/2010 3:05:37 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater

Eat less saturated fat: that has been the take-home message from the U.S. government for the past 30 years. But while Americans have dutifully reduced the percentage of daily calories from saturated fat since 1970, the obesity rate during that time has more than doubled, diabetes has tripled, and heart disease is still the country’s biggest killer. Now a spate of new research, including a meta-analysis of nearly two dozen studies, suggests a reason why: investigators may have picked the wrong culprit. Processed carbohydrates, which many Americans eat today in place of fat, may increase the risk of obesity, diabetes and heart disease more than fat does—a finding that has serious implications for new dietary guidelines expected this year.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Technical
KEYWORDS: atherosclerosis; atkins; atkinsdiet; carb; carbohydrates; carbs; cardio; corn; cornsyrup; diabetes; diet; fructose; health; heartdisease; hfcs; ldl; letsdolunch; low; lowcarb; obesity; stroke; sugar; syrup
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...The analysis, overseen by Ronald M. Krauss, director of atherosclerosis research at the Children’s Hospital Oakland Research Institute, found no association between the amount of saturated fat consumed and the risk of heart disease.

The finding joins other conclusions of the past few years that run counter to the conventional wisdom that saturated fat is bad for the heart because it increases total cholesterol levels. That idea is “based in large measure on extrapolations, which are not supported by the data,” Krauss says.

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...Although saturated fat boosts blood levels of “bad” LDL cholesterol, it also increases “good” HDL cholesterol. In 2008 Stampfer co-authored a study in the New England Journal of Medicine that followed 322 moderately obese individuals for two years as they adopted one of three diets: a low-fat, calorie-restricted diet based on American Heart Association guidelines; a Mediterranean, restricted-calorie diet rich in vegetables and low in red meat; and a low-carbohydrate, nonrestricted-calorie diet. Although the subjects on the low-carb diet ate the most saturated fat, they ended up with the healthiest ratio of HDL to LDL cholesterol and lost twice as much weight as their low-fat-eating counterparts.

Stampfer’s findings do not merely suggest that saturated fats are not so bad; they indicate that carbohydrates could be worse.

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..-What is more, some high-fiber carbohydrates are unquestionably good for the body. But saturated fats may ultimately be neutral compared with processed carbs and sugars such as those found in cereals, breads, pasta and cookies.

“If you reduce saturated fat and replace it with high glycemic-index carbohydrates, you may not only not get benefits—you might actually produce harm,” Ludwig argues. The next time you eat a piece of buttered toast, he says, consider that “butter is actually the more healthful component.”


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The perfect storm, from three political winds:
- Richard Nixon...
- High fructose corn syrup (Japan's revenge for world war two)...
- We were told to reduce dietary fat

"Pure, White and deadly" by the late John Yudkin, 1972 "He was a pure prophet, and 100% accurate"
Faulty Ancel Keyes nutrition study is debunked.

39:00 Fats cause harmless large bouyant LDL
  Carbohydrates cause deadly small dense LDL

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1 posted on 04/29/2010 3:05:37 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater
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To: Future Useless Eater

How about the Federal Government STFU about what we can or cannot EAT!!! FedGov gonna kill us all if they don’t SHUT UP and LEAVE US ALONE!!!!


2 posted on 04/29/2010 3:09:00 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (To anger a Conservative, Lie to them. To anger a Liberal, tell them the TRUTH!)
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To: Future Useless Eater
Here is that link corrected... Sugar the Bitter Truth
3 posted on 04/29/2010 3:10:44 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Alot of people have been saying this for decades... As for Fructose, yeah, its not so great, and plain old SUGAR has it in spades as well....


4 posted on 04/29/2010 3:16:20 AM PDT by Paradox (`)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Bump for later.


5 posted on 04/29/2010 3:19:19 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: mtbrandon49

The ghost of Atkins rides again...


6 posted on 04/29/2010 3:31:09 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Obie Wan Nairobi from the 1/2 dark side. The farce with this one strong, it is...)
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To: Marie Antoinette; listenhillary; Big Giant Air Head

Low carb diet ping


7 posted on 04/29/2010 3:32:24 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: neverdem
just thought you might find this interesting....or timewasting....

;)

8 posted on 04/29/2010 3:34:36 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Future Useless Eater

I’m enjoying this thread while eating mixed refined sugar and congealed bacon grease out of a coffee can with a spoon, and washing it down with a beer stein full of crappy whiskey.

Fark ‘em. I’ve had enough.


9 posted on 04/29/2010 3:47:13 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Bad carbs need to be eliminated- grains, sugars, etc... & fungus is linked to many ailments.

http://www.knowthecause.com/


10 posted on 04/29/2010 3:50:24 AM PDT by petercooper (Ignorant Obama Voters: Happy Now?)
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To: WackySam; TennesseeGirl; grey_whiskers; Coleus; fightinJAG; PizzaDriver; polymuser; decimon; ...

Ping to 1 and 3,

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Dr. Lustig also said we are getting an epidemic now of 6 MONTH old’s with type 2 diabetes!


11 posted on 04/29/2010 3:53:01 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Not to worry. A new study will be out shortly saying CO2 makes you fat. Researchers gotta eat too ya know.


12 posted on 04/29/2010 3:54:56 AM PDT by Straight8
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To: Future Useless Eater
investigators may have picked the wrong culprit. Processed carbohydrates

Paging Dr. Atkins. George McGovern under the Carter administration brought you the food pyramid. By government "consensus" fats were bad and carbs were health. Within the decade Americans began to suffer from Metabolic Syndrome. The primary symptom of MetS is increasing insulin resistance. This is easily seen in the very elevated tryglyceride levels, weight gain and younger onset of Type II diabetes.

The symptoms of MetS are almost always reversed on a very low carbohydrate diet. Findings indicate that tryglyceride levels begin to drop dramatically with 72 hours of the onset of a very low carbohydrate diet. Tryglyceride levels precede even weight loss. Insulin resistance also improves. Processed carbohydrates are being watched now as part of the continuing expansion of government control. All high glycemic carbs are to blame.

Government medicine created the problem and now blames the victims. Government has never been able to fix what it has broken.
13 posted on 04/29/2010 3:55:00 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Big Giant Head

If you have a low carb diet ping list please add me. Thanks.


14 posted on 04/29/2010 3:56:31 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

I cannot speak to research, as I don’t do that for a living, but I can speak to personal experience.

I wanted to drop weight several years ago. I read the atkins book and decided to give it a try for myself. I went to the doctor and had my blood cholesterol readings done. My total cholesterol was close to 300 and my triglycerides were 372. The doc wanted to put me on meds. I asked him to wait 8 weeks and let me try diet to correct. He recommended low fat high fiber. I told him I was going to do the atkins diet. He was adamantly against it. I followed the diet to the LETTER. And better yet, I decided I was going to eat the highest fat foods possible (eggs and sausage every morning for 8 weeks, ground beef for lunch, and fatty steaks, chops etc. for dinner), to really test the diet and put this to bed once and for all for myself. I always had either one salad a day (2-3 cups worth) with straight oil and vinegar for dressing, or at least a cup of green veggies.

When I returned to the doctor in 8 weeks, he looked at my blood panel and asked what med he had put me on. I told him none, I went on a diet. He said excellent work as all my numbers were NORMAL. (tryglycirides dropped almost 300 points in 8 weeks, hdl up, ldl way down, total chol. was 202. When he remembered it was atkins, he was blown away.

Next time I saw him, he dropped at least 50 lbs. When I commented how great he looked, he said it was thanks to me. He went on atkins and replicated my results for himself. He now puts all his patients on it. It does work, and it is not hard to do. One must understand that you can have pretty much a great lifestyle on atkins for weight maintenance. It is basically all carbs, but one must not have them every day, and you should not ever eat anything with refined sugar or frutcose anyway, its just bad for your body. That being said, when on the maintainence program, you can have it on occasion, you just save up your carbs for that day and apply them all to your special treat, or cut back the next day or two. Weigh yourself every week, and if you find you have gained 5 lbs , you immediately go back to phase one and lose it, don’t let it become 10 lbs. Other than that, pasta, bread, rice, potatoes can become a part of your diet, just no more than once or twice a week.


15 posted on 04/29/2010 4:31:04 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: Future Useless Eater

Highly recommend Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes, an Encyclopedic presentation of the history of the science of obesity. Gives the who, what, where, when and why of how the dietary fat hypothesis gained ascendancy and has been so resistant to the contrary evidence.

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Gary-Taubes/dp/1400040787

Brilliant lecture available on the internets.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4362041487661765149


16 posted on 04/29/2010 4:36:01 AM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: wombtotomb

125 lbs. later, I can absolutely attest to the evils of refined carbohydrates! I was nearing 400 lbs. in college. I went back down to my “normal” weight of 330 after moving back home, but I was miserable. After an anxiety attack at work brought me to the brink, I endeavored to get back in shape.

I was at a plateau around 300 lbs, and a buddy of mine recently shed a lot of weight. His method: no carbs. I was still swilling beer and eating garbage thinking that the exercise would balance it out, but once I got rid of all of that and the rest of the carbohydrate crew, my weight plummeted! I shed 70 lbs. in a couple of months, and I’ve never looked back.

Although I eat fruits and certain starches, my weight is entirely manageable, and the nice thing now is that the tiniest amount of sugar makes me sick. Sugars and sugary byproducts light up the brain like a cocaine addict. Once we get past the withdrawal from sugar, fats and proteins taste so much better and are really great for you.

I’m trying to get my fiancee to see the light, but she’s convinced she can do it with sugars. I suppose only time will tell.


17 posted on 04/29/2010 4:40:41 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Future Useless Eater
In my forthcoming book, Seven Events that Made America America (out in June), I have a chapter called "Ike Has a Heart Attack and Starts the War on Meat," arguing that basically federal meddling in diets pushed us to a carb-heavy diet that was unnatural and led to obesity. Now, whether or not you buy into the "Atkins" diet, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO PLACE TELLING US WHAT TO EAT!!!!


18 posted on 04/29/2010 4:50:12 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Can anyone post the image of the book here? I’m having no luck.


19 posted on 04/29/2010 4:50:49 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: rarestia

I lost 100 lbs by eliminating bad carbs. Good carbs have to be eaten at the right times. I do not eat any carbs after 7 pm. Carbs have to be burned off. Fats are good for you in moderation . Avocado olives etc. Even some cheese. I have kept it off for 6 years. Even fruits at night are a no no. The sugar has to be burned. It is all about timing. Period. The golden rule is Burn more than you take in. It is that simple.


20 posted on 04/29/2010 4:51:29 AM PDT by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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