Obama’s Birth Announcement in 1961 confirmed

The Post and Email ^ | Dec. 11, 2009 | John Charlton

[Electric Graffiti]

STAR BULLETIN EDITION OF AUG. 14TH, ON FILE AT BERKLEY IDENTICAL TO PUBLISHED IMAGES by John Charlton

The Post & Email has just received PDF files from a highly credible source, establishing that the birth annoucement in the Star Bulletin Edition of Aug. 14, 1961, for Barack Hussein Obama, is authentic.

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[mojitojoe]

I’m not the one that is detested on FR. You are.

[Non-Sequitur]

That is simply untrue, and is, quite frankly, childishly illogical.

Not nearly as childishly illogical as those who concoct elaborate explanations on how Obama could be born in Kenya but his birth announcement still made it into the paper in the same issue as all those children born in the same week were. Those strain all bounds of credibility.

The assertion that these are "obviously the product of some bureaucratic filing" is pure supposition on your part.

As opposed to all the other explanations?

. You have no idea where these announcements came from, yet you are willing to accept, as fact, a theory that you just pulled out of your rear end.

Where do you get your theories from? A dozen or so birth announcements, for the same children, worded exactly the same way, in the same order, in two different papers. How do you explain it if not some data dump from the local governmental department?

Once again, you are demonstrating non-logical thinking.

OK, then demonstrate logical thinking. What's your explanation?

[curiosity]

If Obama's mama (or grandparents) understood this, and wanted to ensure that Obama had the very valuable gift of American citizenship, they simply would have gone through the motions to pretend that he had been born in Hawaii.

That would have been totally unnecessary. If Obama really had been born outside the US, it is true he would not be a US citizen at brith. However, because his mother was a US citizen, he would be entitled to a nonquota immigrant visa, easily obtained from any US consolate, allowing him to legally enter the US with his mother. Upon his arrival, he would then be eligible for immediate naturalization. All his mother would have to do was fill out a form, show proof of her own US citizenship and that she was his biological mother, and he would be a citizen in as little time as it would take to process the paperwork.

This is all under the the Immigration and Nationality act of 1952.

Now why in the world would Stanley Ann risk a felony conviction and commit fraud to get her son citizenship, when she could have easily obtained it through legal means?

[urtax$@work]

The Nordyke twins should be in the same newspaper as Obama ... and yet they're not.

So when & where are the Nordykes listed.....?

(when a "not" is known, it's good to know the known too....)

[Red Steel]

In your opinion. Courts are on record disagreeing.

Nope. The courts have avoided the issue.

[curiosity]

Obviously, the grandparents would want to file in Hawaii and take advantage of their lax laws to get ole Barry American Passport etc.

See post 263. Even if Obama weren't born in the US, his mom could obtain US citizenship for him easily and legally. Why in the world would she risk a felony conviction by trying to fraudulantly register his birth in Hawaii?

[Non-Sequitur]

I’m not the one that is detested on FR. You are.

Oh woe is me! Mojitojoe detests me! Scratch that, mojitojoe and his buddies detest me! What ever will I do? How can I possibly carry on?

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

Every American Citizen must PROVE he is such to obtain employment in this nation.

A COLB will suffice.

[curiosity]

You have no idea where these announcements came from

Yes we do. If you look at the top of the page, the paper clearly indicates that they come from the Department of Health. A spokesman for one of the papers also confirmed that in 1960's, all the announcements came directly from the department.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

It's now up to two million.

Source please. I won't hold my breath waiting for it.

[curiosity]

See post #263 for a debunking of the birther claim that mama Obama had a motive to fraudulantly register Bambi as being born in Hawaii had he really been born outside the US.

[fr_freak]

Make no mistake, BHO and his cronies will push this nation to armed revolution before the next presidential election. The puppet master behind this president wants this, as do most leftists who hold office.

I disagree. I can't what benefit there would be for the Left to push this country into armed revolution when they are having such success moving the US into socialism without having to fire a shot. Revolution would be a HUGE risk, because the conservative US population is armed to the teeth and most of the military would side with them. I think the Left wants to push the socialist agenda through bureaucracy and legislation, and they are counting on Americans being too passive to resist by force.

[fr_freak]

Not nearly as childishly illogical as those who concoct elaborate explanations on how Obama could be born in Kenya but his birth announcement still made it into the paper in the same issue as all those children born in the same week were.

My posts focused solely on one or two points. You used illogical thinking to argue with those points, and are now attempting to use other non-related arguments rather than continue discussing those points. Discussions like that get nowhere. Other people on this thread have addressed your concerns on your point above, so go argue with them on that issue.

[curiosity]

His mother was American therefore he is natural born.

FYI, the birthers actually have a point on this. You know what they say about broken clocks.

If Obie Jr. really really was born outside the US (I know he wasn't, but let's pretend for a minute), he would not be a US citizen at birth because his mother did not meet the residency requirements to convey automatic US citizenship on her son. The 1952 immigration and nationality act required the US citizen parent to have lived in the US for at least 5 years following her 16th birthday. Being only 19 years old, she did not meet that requirement.

But of course, this is all moot since he was born in Hawaii.

Some birthers use the above to establish a motive for her to have fraudulantly registered his birth in Hawaii. That argument fails because her status as a US citizen would entitle her to naturalize her son as soon as she returned to the USA. Now why would she risk a felony fraud conviction when she could obtain citizenship for her son through perfectly legal means?

[OafOfOffice]

Nordyke worked as a Population research fellow at the East-West Center at the same time Dunham was there so the story goes tired posted. So Stanley Ann met Barack senior and Lolo at this east west center?

From another source online.

http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/O/ObamaBarackHussein-StanleyAnnDunham.shtml

At the time of Barack’s birth, both of his parents were students at the East-West Center of the University of Hawaii at Manoa; Barack’s stepfather, Lolo SOETORO, was also a student at the East-West Center.

I find it interesting it speaks of microfinance that Stanley Ann was involved in Indonesia along with Geithners father. Their mission is also interesting.

http://www.eastwestcenter.org/home/

http://www.eastwestcenter.org/research/research-program-overview/population-and-health/

Mission and Organization Overview
Over its nearly fifty years of serving as a U.S.-based institution for public diplomacy in the Asia Pacific region with international governance, staffing, students, and participants, the Center has built a worldwide network of more than 55,000 alumni and 600 partner organizations.

[OafOfOffice]

Okay, so obama was suppose to be vetted properly before he became eligible to run for POTUS. Obama cannot prove his eligibility now or he refuses to do so.

This happened before he was president and was a senator. According to you if it happened before becoming President Taxpayers don’t pay for their legal defense, right? He conned everyone before he was elected.

[Gemsbok]

Awesome.
Thanks, check your FRMail

[LibertarianAdam]

“Show us the proof”

I didn’t mean to pick on just you, OOF, but wanted to quote an appropriate post for framing my question.

I mean this question honestly.

If Obama were to supply a physical copy of his COLB or original (provided he still has it, as he claims in his memoir), to whom should he provide the original copy?

The courts don’t want it (based on last count I think it’s about two dozen courts who have refused to consider the question). And if you think that’s a conspiracy, my only retort is that birthers are likely the worst legal forum-shoppers ever.

Should Obama provide a copy (assuming only one exists in the original “long-form”) to the media? What if they found it valid? I doubt that would satisfy anyone here, even if it was Fox News (the last place Obama would give it to).

I just don’t understand specifically what the birthers are asking for when they ask this question. Who or what exactly is the forum to which to submit these documents for verification?

I agree that the states should adopt measures to ensure in-house verification of qualifications for 2012, but when people here say “show the long form” or “show the original” I have no idea what that means other than a computer-generated copy, which will never satisfy any birther. None of us are going to actually see any of these things in person.

[tired_old_conservative]

Like another poster, you're assuming that because you aren't satisfied with the vetting, it didn't occur. That's not true. Whether it was adequate vetting or not, it met the legal requirements that exist. There was no omission on Obama’s part, and therefore no pre-Presidential liability.

If you don't like the vetting requirements, work to change them in your state. But what's done is done.

[Mr. Blonde]

Because it helps them. He is doing the math, and he is still sees it as painting the opposition as kooks. Can’t put a price on marginalizing the opposition.