Obama’s Birth Announcement in 1961 confirmed

The Post and Email ^ | Dec. 11, 2009 | John Charlton

[Electric Graffiti]

STAR BULLETIN EDITION OF AUG. 14TH, ON FILE AT BERKLEY IDENTICAL TO PUBLISHED IMAGES by John Charlton

The Post & Email has just received PDF files from a highly credible source, establishing that the birth annoucement in the Star Bulletin Edition of Aug. 14, 1961, for Barack Hussein Obama, is authentic.

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[OafOfOffice]

Social Security Death Index
about Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham
Name: Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham
SSN: ***-**-7458
Last Residence: 96826 Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii
Born: 26 Oct 1922
Died: 2 Nov 2008
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before

Father: Stanley Armour Dunham b: 23 MAR 1918 in WICHITA, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS, UNITED STATES
Mother: Madelyn Lee Payne b: 26 OCT 1922 in WICHITA, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS, UNITED STATES

[tired_old_conservative]

Again, courts are not one-stop NBC verification shops. There is no requirement to do that, and they won't do it for you unless someone has articulated to them a legally actionable case that requires it. No one has. So you are excoriating Obama for not demanding the Courts do something they don't have to and won't.

[onyx]

LOL.

Where’s the Birth Certificate? notes left in restrooms!!!!

Hahahahahahahaha. Love the idea!

[Brytani]

I have an account with Net Detective and Ancestry.com - I just checked both and while her SS Death Index comes up, there is no record on either for a Stanley A. Dunham on her b-day listed on social security.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

[OafOfOffice]

Okay!
Gotcha!

[Brytani]

That is his Grandparents, his mother, Stanley A. Dunham was born in November 26, 1942 according to her SSDI Death Index

Try to find a birth certificate for her though, anywhere in the US.

[OafOfOffice]

So you are excoriating Obama for not demanding the Courts do something they don't have to and won't.

I am not excoriating Obama for not demanding the courts do something they don't have to and won't. Why would I do that when Obama is anything but a honest person? Ihave much more on him to excoriate him about.

I am taking Obama to task for his refusal to show a simple document and get this over with. In the original Berg case he requested the courts verify Obama's BC. Bauers answer, dismiss the case. The courts cannot force Obama to step down but they can petition congress to verify it and answer eligibility questions real citizens of the United States have.

[OafOfOffice]

Do we have this last name for Soetoro?

Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo

[Captain Kirk]

I have. His mother was American therefore he is natural born.

[Captain Kirk]

So you agree that any future president along with Obama should deny any personal records? Say to the people,hey if you prove I am not who I say I am then do it?

I dunno. Name me ONE president in American history who was required to present these personal records. Certainly, the Constitution does not require such personal records. Heck, we didn't even have birth certificated back in 1789! Again, are you arguing that he was not born to an American mother? Otherwise, what is your point?

[exnavy]

I believe you are correct on all counts about BHO, and revolution.

Make no mistake, BHO and his cronies will push this nation to armed revolution before the next presidential election. The puppet master behind this president wants this, as do most leftists who hold office.

[Red Steel]

If you are worried about the fact that his father was not a U.S. citizen, do you apply the same standard to Andrew Jackson? Unlike Obama, BOTH of his parents were non-citizens at the time of his birth.

What's irrelevant is your point about Jackson because he was qualified to be president under the US Constitution regardless what nationality his mother or father had at the time of his birth. Andrew Jackson was a US Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and resided in the United States for 14 years.

Your points in your argument are specious at best. Having two parents as US citizens and being born in the United States is without question a natural born citizen. All other types of citizens, statutory or native born, are not NBC.

[fr_freak]

Of course it's entirely possible and highly likely that a teen-aged liberal arts major was so well versed in U.S. citizenship law that she immediately knew that her baby boy's status as a natural born citizen and future president was in danger, so within hours of birth she initiated a long distance conspiracy from her base of operations in a third world armpit of a city to make sure that the proper paperwork was forged and filed.

Apparently you did not actually read the post you replied to. You are engaged in the same fallacy that many "anti-birthers" engage in, where you assert that some grand conspiracy to make Obama president is necessary for his mother or grandparents to want to ensure his citizenship. That is simply untrue, and is, quite frankly, childishly illogical. If you want to make a real argument, re-read the post and address the points made. Otherwise, you are just making yourself look silly.

Here is another example of your lack of coherent logic:

Except that if you read all the birth announcements from both papers for that day they are worded identically and are obviously the product of some bureaucratic filing.

The assertion that these are "obviously the product of some bureaucratic filing" is pure supposition on your part. You have no idea where these announcements came from, yet you are willing to accept, as fact, a theory that you just pulled out of your rear end. That is fine - absent the proper documentation, theory is all we have to go on, but it is supremely ironic that you'll accept your own supposition as fact while ridiculing better-grounded suppositions of "birthers". Once again, you are demonstrating non-logical thinking.

[tired_old_conservative]

“Having two parents as US citizens and being born in the United States is without question a natural born citizen. All other types of citizens, statutory or native born, are not NBC.”

In your opinion. Courts are on record disagreeing.

[OafOfOffice]

Obama was born before 1789? Holy Cow! I am not making a defined point. YOU ARE! You seem to think that no validation is in Obama's favor. BS!

The Constitution says he must be natural born citizen. In todays world we prove that by records. When America was small they probably shot them before they hit land. They were definately not NBC. /JK

What I am saying is already posted in my comments here in this thread.

I do not feel anyone here should have to wonder about their presidents allegiance. And everyday he proves he is Anti America so it is a valid question.

Tell me when,after BC's were around, we have had a president who had no history in America that could be traced? That hid his parents and grandparents? Tell me when we had a mysterious, where the h*ll did he come from, person in the White House?

Things are different with Obama. He has a extremely radical past and friends and no verification he is NBC. In fact there are reasons to believe he is not NBC so it is time for him to step up and answer the call.

People were not concerned about Bush because his parents are front and center and in politics. People were not concerned about Clinton because his mother and brother were around and he had a political past as governor. People were not concerned about Kennedy because his family was a huge part of his campaign. They were not hidden. Same with Carter. There just was not a reason to question where they were born.

Everything we know about Obama is in his book and everyone is to assume it is factual. You are setting a terrible precedent for future presidential candidates. Mullah's will post a BC online and you will cheerfully say, It's all good!

I am determined to not have this happen in the future. And I am determined as Lloyd Marcus said, to get Obama out of office as soon as possible.

[OafOfOffice]

I have. His mother was American therefore he is natural born.

Show us the proof she was American. You have bought into Obama hype and that is not proof.

[Non-Sequitur]

NOOO, because it has been shown here a few times how easy it is to fake a COLB, that even you and I can do on our laptops!!!

Then the same can be said of any document, correct? So what constitutes proof of anything any more?

[justiceseeker93]

Any reason it would be on file at Berkeley?

The presumption would be that the UC-Berkeley library has a collection of microfilms/microfiches of a number of out-of-town newspapers covering whatever dates they do, that the Honolulu Star Bulletin would happen to be one of them, and that the library's HSB holdings include the date of the announcement of Obama's birth.

There need not be any link of Obama to the UC-Berkeley campus.

But, though not implausible, I find that the library's permanent holding of the HSB is unlikely. Could it be that on request of the citizen-investigator, the UC-Berkeley library called another library in Hawaii to send them the microfilm or microfiche asked for by the requester and then sent it on to him or her?

BTW, it would be interesting to see if the birth announcement(s) of the Nordyke twins - who we know were born in Hawaii one day before Obama's putative DOB - are also in that same listing that same day. If not, why not?

[Non-Sequitur]

Fake to me because Obama refuses to send it along to court for verification he is NBC. Why should he? Why shouldn't he?

What requires him, or any other presidential candidate, to do so?

I have shown it for much less than running for president. In fact the things I did show it for I can be a foreign born. POTUS cannot. YOU are actually posting that POTUS does not have to verify citizenship?

Actually I am. No presidential candidate before Obama was required to prove their natural-born citizenship status. That's the unfortunate fact of the matter, and a colossal loophole that some state or Congress will have to close.

Actually no it hasn't and it should not be now. But when your buddy is Chief of DOJ...

It has been for decades, in cases like this one. Republican, Democrat, makes no difference. Sue the president in the performance of his duties and the U.S. Attorney handles it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/legal022599.htm

That's because Clinton was sued for something he was supposed to have done while governor, not president.

[OafOfOffice]

But Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center while Dunham was there. And Nordyke later met Madelyn Dunham — Ann Dunham’s mother and Obama’s grandmother — during a cruise to Tahiti in 2002. “She was placed at our table on the ship,” Nordyke said. “She sat with us on that ship for three weeks. She told us that her daughter had passed away and that she had raised her grandson, and he was a social worker in Chicago.” When Obama was making his successful presidential run, Nordyke realized that her daughters were born within hours of him at the same hospital. The Hawai’i certificate of live birth that Obama displays on his Web site shows he was born at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4.

Once Obama ran for POTUS she saw the BC online and said her twins were born around that time. She did not see Stanley Ann in the hospital or know Obama was born that day. She simply assumed as a few others in denial do that Obama's stories are true.