Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Apparently there are still some posters on FR who are fast asleep. Wake up! Dammit! We are in the middle of a conservative rebellion! While you were sleeping we, along with millions of other freedom loving grassroots Americans have participated in hundreds of tea parties all across this great land and fully intend to keep it up until all of America is awake. We are fed up and mad as hell! We grassroots Americans are delivering a message to the ruling class: NO MORE!!
No more big government! No more high taxes! No more government bailouts! No more government takeovers! No government healthcare! No more corruption! No more global baloneyism!!
We're sick and tired of liberals and RINOs running roughshod over our God given Liberty!
We want our country back! We want our freedom back! We want it all back!!
No more socialism!!
Cut the taxes! Cut the spending! Cut the government!
Restore the constitutional limits on government! Restore our freedom!!
And not only no, but HELL NO to liberals and RINOS!!
Free Republic will not support RINOS!! Rudy McRomney, et al, can go straight to hell!!
The strategy is we win, they lose.
Any questions?
Hey Jim! You're a totalitarian because you don't like RINOs on FR!
RINOs are NOT allies, erstwhile or otherwise. They are turncoats to conservative principles. They only use the GOP label for political purposes. They are like some who populate this forum, for whom we will always be vigilant.
You do that a lot.
You couldn't possibly be more WRONG.
So you think you should be allowed to use Jim Robinson’s property however you see fit, without his permission? That’s what you call “conservatism?”
It is not surrender. Reagan did it with a totally different electorate in 1980 and 1984. You think that Conservatism in the mold of Reagan is going to win everywhere today, it will not win. It may win most places but not all places. New York, Massachusetts, California, Illinois, to name some state are not when Reagan conservatism can win today because the electorate is too liberal. Do you know a Reagan conservative who can win New York Senate seat? What is his or her name?
Then why did Jim himself say that CA is a lost cause and he's moving to TX?
Just sayin'....
You clearly have no idea what I meant with that post.
But there needs to be room for conservatives to agree about the end but differ about the means.
I believe in the federalist, pre Roe position where each state makes its own law, coupled with the need to change hearts on the subject of abortion, one at a time.
There are some Freepers who seem to think that this is a pro-death position, and apparently believe that electing a President who loudly proclaims that he or she is pro-life at every opportunity will somehow make abortion go away.
We had Presidents who have so proclaimed, and not one abortion was prevented by this method unless it was by persuasion alone.
The irony about your disdain for the man is that he drives the social liberals in MA even crazier. I’ve spoken with a patient of mine who served on Cellucci’s administration and voted for Romney. My patient describes himself as a fiscal conservative but social liberal. He believed Romney was going to govern in the mould of Weld or Cellucci. However, he quickly grew disenchanted with Romney’s “sharp turn to the right in the way he governed once he talk office.”
I fully supported Romney when he ran for POTUS in 2008, and intend to support him again in 2012. I guess by then, the venom on this board will be so great that guys like me (who strongly supports other conservative candidates like Marco Rubio), will no longer be welcome. That’s a shame, especially since either of those candidates would score a perfect 10 out 10 on the Reagan-inspired 10 point purity test.
I agree with you and I believe everyone on this forum knows who support RINOs. The major givaway is in their posts and responses.
Me, too. And several days ago I was actually involved in a thread in which I dared defend Rudy Guiliani in a limited way and that stirred up a bunch of hard feelings from the past that I had no clue about (I've been here a year.) Jim himself responded to my post and laid down the non-Rudy law. I also learned a lot about Rudy's political views that I did *not* know about and, frankly, ended up having little problem with throwing Rudy under the bus. ;0)
So hopefully you can see that I, too, want the thought police not to jump to any conclusions and I, and many FReepers I think, still need to learn a lot about individual candidates. And as you said, that is different from living and voting according to Conservative principles which I believe I've done my whole life.
Things go in cycles and sometimes there are waves of people that - regardless of their intentions - end up stirring up so much animosity and stupid political "dust" that reasonable discussion becomes impossible. Those are the times when I support the warning and/or even zotting of those who are vociferously advocating RINO or Conservative-lite positions. But only when the noise level is so high that a Conservative Adult needs to take a firm hand...
I consider you my FRiend until proven otherwise. I do *not* believe in thought police or I will someday make an honest opinion "error" and get zotted myself. And if I can't fit in at Free Republic then I don't think I can fit in anywhere!
The only other point I feel strongly about is the need to educate almost everyone (besides FReepers) about the distinction between a Conservative and a Republican. And a RINO is actually, I think, a Conservative-In-Name-Only but I doubt anyone will stop using the term RINO, it has so much traction.
(Long post, sorry.)
Oh no, not the dreaded Ping Posse!
are not when= are not where
And take the huckster under one arm and mc cain under the other arm.
This attitude is political suicide. If they mean to get rid of ALL so-called RINOS and replace them with RATs, I fail to see the advantage of that.
If they want to get rid of RINOs and replace them with conservatives, great, I'm all for it but this is extremely disheartening as I see no plan to improve our country at all--only surrender.
Sorry, I have not read this whole thread so may be missing some voices of reason but for the most part, I only see hysteria and radicalness.
This is no plan at all for accomplishing a conservative agenda. This mindset says its better to lose and continue to retreat than to use some RINOs.
Last Sat. night, I was glad for a few RINOs.
Besides, the bigots on here even call me names and a RINO. They couldn't be more wrong but I will never allow a RAT to defeat a Republican if I have any power to do anything about it.
I love warrior threads like these. Brings out the best of our inner patriot, I think.
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