It is not surrender. Reagan did it with a totally different electorate in 1980 and 1984. You think that Conservatism in the mold of Reagan is going to win everywhere today, it will not win. It may win most places but not all places. New York, Massachusetts, California, Illinois, to name some state are not when Reagan conservatism can win today because the electorate is too liberal. Do you know a Reagan conservative who can win New York Senate seat? What is his or her name?
are not when= are not where
JVeritas, I know you see California as a lost cause, so let’s use it as an example. Didn’t a recent initiative to grant equal status to homosexuals as heterosexuals in marriage go down in defeat?
Didn’t Simon almost defeat an incumbent Democrat in 1992 without financial backing from the GOP?
In that election the Democrats pulled out all the stops, every big name they could think of came out to California to help Davis.
Simon got didly squat support from the GOP. I think Bush popped into the state once for a few hours. Davis got days and days of national support.
I know my state has been surrenderd. The GOP hasn’t done anything of note here in twenty years. The leadership is non-existant.
People still have core values and concerns. They can still understand the premise of thier money being stolen from them via their paycheck. They can still understand the subject of sound education for their children. They can still understand property rights, jobs, and other issues. Our side doesn’t represent sound values in the state. We don’t win converts.
We surrender too much, when we consider states to be lost in perpetuity. You sure don’t see the Democrats giving up on sound states do you. That’s why they win and we lose.
They’re not bashful about going for the whole pie. We are.
I’ve read your posts on this thread and I agree with you about Rudy Guiliani/NY, some other States/areas.
My first ever vote was for Reagan and he wasn’t perfect, his wife wasn’t perfect, his kids weren’t perfect.
Reagan won 25 years ago. A lot has changed since then.