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The story behind Darwin's warm little pond
ARN ^ | November 6, 2009 | David Tyler, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/07/2009 6:08:03 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Sooner or later, students of abiogenesis will encounter Darwin's 1871 letter to Joseph Hooker with his speculations on the spontaneous generation of life. He was returning some pamphlets which triggered the reaction: "I am always delighted to see a word in favour of Pangenesis, which some day, I believe, will have a resurrection." The next paragraph has his "big if" dream: ...

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To: Wacka

Oh, gee. Yeah. I forgot. I sincerely apologize to all FR geocentrists who may participate in these threads. I didn’t mean to leave you out!


21 posted on 11/08/2009 8:14:27 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis; Wacka

Projecting again, I see. The truth is that your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics are one of the most pseudoscientific and supersitious groupings in the country. But that really shouldn’t come as a surpise, seeing how your evo-materialist coreligionists also believe that life came from non-life, intelligence from non-intelligence, and that the complex, specified, super-sophisticated DNA code came from pond scum plus lightening:

“What Americans Really Believe,” a comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows that traditional Christian religion greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of astrology. It also shows that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians.

The Gallup Organization, under contract to Baylor’s Institute for Studies of Religion, asked American adults a series of questions to gauge credulity. Do dreams foretell the future? Did ancient advanced civilizations such as Atlantis exist? Can places be haunted? Is it possible to communicate with the dead? Will creatures like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster someday be discovered by science?

The answers were added up to create an index of belief in occult and the paranormal. While 31% of people who never worship expressed strong belief in these things, only 8% of people who attend a house of worship more than once a week did ...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html


22 posted on 11/08/2009 10:17:04 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; GodGunsGuts
Life didn’t spring from spontaneous generation. Like Topsy, it just sort of growed.

No, that's not right, dear YHAOS: Like the grey-eyed Athena, it simply sprang forth fully formed from the brow of Zeus....

23 posted on 11/08/2009 10:30:51 AM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Yes. I've long been aware of that particular study (not checking just now, but assuming the one I recall is the same one you cite, but maybe not) finding that evangelicals are less likely than liberal Christians or secularists to have paranormal beliefs.

IIRC correctly, that survey was not particularly large, and it was conducted on college students, who may or may not represent the general population well. Or maybe I misremember. But anyway, it doesn't matter much. I don't particularly dispute the finding.

However it doesn't contradict my assertion that those who accept one pseudoscience or fringe belief tend to also accept others. Even if evangelicals are indeed less likely to fall into that category (and many evangelical Christians do indeed either accept evolution, or aren't particularly adamant in their skepticism of it) I hold that it still applies to those who do. Certainly, as noted, we find abundant evidence of that right here in FreeRepublic.

24 posted on 11/08/2009 10:33:30 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl
Has anyone else noticed what Darwin considered one of his chief regrets with respect to Origins?

That he had used the "Pentateuchal language" of a Creator breathing life into existence??? That sort of thing wasn't politically correct in Darwin's circle of acquaintance back then; i..e., philosophical materialists/hardcore rationalists strongly inclined to the doctrine of philosophical positivism.

25 posted on 11/08/2009 10:35:59 AM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Wacka

“Yes, look how many groupies GGG has.”

I’ve noticed that some of the more amusing groupies have been absent from his threads despite the obligatory mass ping. I wonder if even they have had enough.


26 posted on 11/08/2009 10:37:18 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Stultis

==However it doesn’t contradict my assertion that those who accept one pseudoscience or fringe belief tend to also accept others.

I couldn’t agree more, that is why those who accept darwood’s pseudoscientific fairytale are much more likely to accept the existence of the occult and paranormal, such as ghosts, Big Foot, psychic healing, Lock Ness Monster, haunted houses, UFOs, clairvoyance, little greene men from Mars, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....


27 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: SargeTheSane
You can’t believe anything “scientists” tell us these days.

Or salesmen, or politicians, or the guidance counselor at school, or the traffic cop you asked for directions, or the kid at the drive through window, or pretty much anyone else.

28 posted on 11/08/2009 10:50:27 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (the obama doctrine: "let's not rush to any conclusions...")
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To: betty boop

Not only was it not politically correct within Darwin’s own circles, he himself didn’t believe it and apparently felt ashamed for writing dishonestly in an attempt to gain a wider acceptance for his evo-atheist creation myth.


29 posted on 11/08/2009 10:58:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Wacka

“Yes, look how many groupies GGG has.”

What is “GGG”?

What I value is straight science without the propaganda as in evolution or Darwin’s nonsense that he didn’t even believe in.


30 posted on 11/08/2009 11:11:46 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh; Wacka

“What I value is straight science without the propaganda as in evolution or Darwin’s nonsense...”

Do you consider biblical creationism to be real science?


31 posted on 11/08/2009 11:47:07 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl
...and apparently felt ashamed for writing dishonestly in an attempt to gain a wider acceptance for his evo-atheist creation myth

Here you are attributing motives to Darwin — which is a very unscientific thing to do. But then it seems people do that sort of thing all the time nowadays....

Somehow, I just don't think it's right, or appropriate in a scientific discussion.

JMHO, FWIW

32 posted on 11/08/2009 12:25:25 PM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: betty boop

Did you read the post? Darwin was ashamed of himself for “truckling to public opinion” because he substituted the word “creator” for what he really meant, which was “appeared.” What do you call it when a person deliberately says one thing, when they really mean something entirely different?


33 posted on 11/08/2009 12:44:04 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
What do you call it when a person deliberately says one thing, when they really mean something entirely different?

What do you call it when someone misrepresents what the Bible says and won't own up to it?

34 posted on 11/08/2009 12:58:07 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

I call that person, CW.


35 posted on 11/08/2009 12:59:21 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: nmh; GodGunsGuts
What is “GGG”?

GGG is a YECer that has to meet his minimum number of new threads per day, misrepresents that Bible and won't own up to it.

36 posted on 11/08/2009 1:00:49 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
I call that person, CW.

I call that person GGG.

In Genesis 3 you will find that all creation was cursed because of the Fall.

Where does the Genesis 3 say this? We are up to verse 10 and you still will not admit you have misrepresented the Bible.

37 posted on 11/08/2009 1:04:49 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

By saying that I am misrepresenting the Bible, you are calling me a liar. Which means you are ignorant, or a liar, or both. But there is only one way to find out. So let’s hear it. What evidence do you have that I am misrepresenting/lying about the Bible?


38 posted on 11/08/2009 1:05:20 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ColdWater

I told you I want you to read the whole thing. Have you read all of Genesis 3 yet?


39 posted on 11/08/2009 1:06:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
By saying that I am misrepresenting the Bible, you are calling me a liar. Which means you are ignorant, or a liar, or both. But there is only one way to find out. So let’s hear it. What evidence do you have that I am misrepresenting/lying about the Bible?

In Genesis 3 you will find that all creation was cursed because of the Fall.

40 posted on 11/08/2009 1:07:33 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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