Posted on 10/24/2009 4:02:17 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Oct 22, 2009 — “We have kept the creationist barbarians from the gate,” announced a professor at Hong Kong University triumphantly. A news article in Science this week described tensions in the city over the teaching of evolution. The Darwinists won a vote over a change in wording in the science curriculum that would have “opened the door to teaching creationism and intelligent design in secondary schools.” The door must be shut tight, apparently. Even the possibility of this happening created a furore.
Reporter Richard Stone said, “As a year of honoring Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution draws to a close, scientists in Hong Kong are celebrating a partial victory in what is likely to be an ongoing war against proponents of teaching creationism and intelligent design in secondary schools.” He called the partial victory “bittersweet” because it did not revise the guidelines, nor did it rein in “the few dozen schools in Hong Kong that openly espouse creationism.”
Stone said that most schools in Hong Kong, though publicly funded, are run independently – and many are affiliated with churches. The author of the “barbarians” comment, David Dudgeon (faculty board chair at U of HK) complained...
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You’re kidding right? GGG posts the sky is blue and he gets attacked with endless insults and lies. GGG only returns fire.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2347175/posts?q=1&;page=301#323
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2368427/posts?page=233
You ignored the scripture that I posted when you posted your reply. Here it is again with some more (all I have time to post right now).
Romans 5:12
“Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned”
“1 Corinthians 15:45-47
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.”
“Romans 5:17
For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.”
“Romans 5:19
For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”
Again, I am not saying you have to believe in a literal Adam to be saved. However, the Scripture is clear that death and sin entered the world through one man (first Adam) and that through one man (Jesus) we can be made righteous. If you don’t believe in a literal Adam, you are not being consistent. Blessings!
People have been trying to keep the creation posts off of FR all together, if they fail at that, then the next effort is to “keep them in the religion forum where they belong”.
But that doesn’t work either and for good reason.
In both links this message is crystal clear.
And if you’re whining about the 10% of the time that creationists are fighting back the liberals that attack creationists 90% of the time, (and that’s being very very generous...)
oh well.
It fits right in with the mentality of telling people to keep their faith out of the public square, where the Constitution says it's protected.
*Keep it in church or your home, is the mantra, because allowing it to be freely exercised in public is tantamount to the government establishing a religion.*
Biggest bunch of hogwash to hit liberal thinking in decades.
The Constitution does not guarantee a religion free society. It guarantees a politic free religion.
It doesn't protect people from religion, it protects religion from the government.
This one seems to have your name written all over it bb!
This is a stupid, go nowhere thread. I am glad you didn’t dedicate this one to me.
The TToE has been around for 200+ years, has millions of practitioners and billions of data points. Its detractors, which represent not even 1/100 of 1 percent, are practitioners outside of the Life Sciences.
In fact, most of the the people who post on and about these threads could not define a Scientific Theory if their life depended on it.
Nope, you just can’t make this stuff up folks!
If we are to live in a free society, we must allow some people to use their freedom to be dumb.
Yes. Like how most Christian schools do not teach YEC.
All coming from someone who can lay no claim to a degree in science himself.
Still trying to figure out on what basis you continue to lecture people with degrees in science on what science is all about.
Is that the now standard for credibility on these threads?
Your key to surviving.
Good point, Metmom. Come to think of it, I can’t recall Freedumb sticking around long enough to debate much of anything. Hey Freedumb, why don’t you post a “Top Three Reasons Evolution is True” or some such, and we will come. C’mon, let’s see what you’re made of.
PS Remember, if you post the debate thread, we will come!!!
>>All coming from someone who can lay no claim to a degree in science himself.<<
One does not need a degree in science to understand it. One need but to understand it. If I am wrong, I, as always, invite you to tell me where I am scientifically wrong.
>>Still trying to figure out on what basis you continue to lecture people with degrees in science on what science is all about.<<
When people use astrology in place of astronomy, any layperson with a telescope, a stopwatch and a 100-YO star chart is in a position to claim science over superstition.
And please tell us who on these threads who do not understand science have science degrees. If it is you, then please post your understanding of what a Scientific Theory is. Then you can explain how TToE does not pass muster AND how an ID does. We all await your (or any “scientist”) response.
Your constant ad hominem attacks on my posts do nothing to advance your cause.
And that saddens me, because I think you are a good, if very addled, person.
The worst part is that you think that by advancing ignorance as a cause you are doing God’s work, when it is Satan that laughs at delight at your spreading willful ignorance.
I wouldn’t even try.
Again, the bad behavior is from the evolutionist side of the aisle. Again, it’s the evolutionist side of the aisle that attempts to shut down debate by not diuscussing the actual articles, but whines about them being where they “shouldn’t be”, or spews liberal nonsense about “religious attacks on science” ad nauseum, ad infinatum.
In case you missed it, FR is a conservative forum and it’s obvious you missed the two links and their relevance to your extremely liberal take on placement of GGG’s posts.
And no your assumptions are wrong, as was already pointed out, you don’t have to believe in scripture a certain way, however it’s obviously a disconnected view, (as was also pointed out), to believe in evolution, the way it is understood, “taught” (more like indoctrinated) or defined and also be a Christian.
As I said 90-10% was being generous.
It’s your side of the aisle that constantly gets banned, and then pushes the envelope with “Christian taliban” comments on 9-11-09 no less.
And that’s not even addressing the outright lies, strawmen, endless projections and various other evo-liberal behavior we see on these threads daily.
I call out liberalism wherever and whenever I see it...like liberals that defend the NEA indoctrination going on in public schools, or anyone that demands posts be posted in some other forum “where it belongs” when the owner has already clearly indicated several times, will not stand.
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